It should've been the social services that arranged the removal of the mattress. Instead I contacted the council. And paid £35. HOWEVER, Vicky doesn't know how to remove it from her flat. This is a problem. I should've filled out a different form on the website: one that is for people who need assistance when removing items from their property. I buggered up there.
I am telephoning Social Services tomorrow and asking them to assist Vicky. She'll need help putting the mattress outside. BUT if she simply doesn't bother, it isn't my problem anymore: I did the best I could do. She will have to understand I'm the only option to get that mattress out of her flat. AND she didn't have to pay for it.
You totally confuse me here. Normally an old mattress is thrown out when replaced. If so it's usual to at least ask the people installing the new one to put the old one outside; in fact usually getting them to take it away although it likely costs if you ask for that.
Is Vicky disabled? A mattress is a hefty thing but they can mostly be shuffled outside by a couple of people. I was even amazed some years ago when finding that someone had put a mattress into the loft in a council house. It may have been a thinner one but getting something like that through a loft entrance in the ceiling?
Again she is her own worst enemy. Most people have neighbours who would likely help a damsel in distress with such a tricky task.
My friend is a troublemaker. This is her track record:
1. She has a history of assault
2. She has physically fought off 6 policemen on occasion
3. She has a history of damage to property
4. She calls the police f**king c*nts
5. She has telephoned the ambulance when feeling suicidal - this is millions of times
6. She has had to attend court hearings for these crimes
7. She has been seeing people she has been advised not to visit - they agree to this
8. She has no respect or regard for nurses - she assaulted a nurse
9. She can't get a volunteer job because she has a criminal record
10. A potential employer would have to be told of her criminal record before hiriing her
11. She now has problems finding properties to live in because of her criminal record
She now has lost the house she was chosen to be an occupant of. This is not surprising. She could well end up in prison in later years, if she carries on like this. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if she did end up in prison. She is a criminal now, basically. It sounds mean, but it's true. She will continue to break the law. But I won't help her do it. She's never involved me directly in doing so, though.
It's sad but I do believe she will one-day be put in prison.
Looking at your OP ^^.
Since you posted that, over a year ago, there has been 9 pages of posts, totalling 240, mostly from you. Even 2,802 views, and in all that time you have been failing to cope with her, and N O T H I N G has changed. Not one single thing.
You really need to look at this thread again, from the very start, and just see how little has changed. If anything, she has got worse.
You really need to review why you have this friendship.
I honestly think that you are your own worst enemy, and I can't think why you are carrying on doing this to yourself.
For goodness sake. Wake up and smell the coffee. It's burnt dry, the coffee pot bottom has broken, and ruined the cooker.
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My friend is a troublemaker. This is her track record:
1. She has a history of assault
2. She has physically fought off 6 policemen on occasion
3. She has a history of damage to property
4. She calls the police f**king c*nts
5. She has telephoned the ambulance when feeling suicidal - this is millions of times
6. She has had to attend court hearings for these crimes
7. She has been seeing people she has been advised not to visit - they agree to this
8. She has no respect or regard for nurses - she assaulted a nurse
9. She can't get a volunteer job because she has a criminal record
10. A potential employer would have to be told of her criminal record before hiriing her
11. She now has problems finding properties to live in because of her criminal record
She now has lost the house she was chosen to be an occupant of. This is not surprising. She could well end up in prison in later years, if she carries on like this. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if she did end up in prison. She is a criminal now, basically. It sounds mean, but it's true. She will continue to break the law. But I won't help her do it. She's never involved me directly in doing so, though.
It's sad but I do believe she will one-day be put in prison.
Looking at your OP ^^.
Since you posted that, over a year ago, there has been 9 pages of posts, totalling 240, mostly from you. Even 2,802 views, and in all that time you have been failing to cope with her, and N O T H I N G has changed. Not one single thing.
You really need to look at this thread again, from the very start, and just see how little has changed. If anything, she has got worse.
You really need to review why you have this friendship[].
I honestly think that you are your own worst enemy, and I can't think why you are carrying on doing this to yourself.
For goodness sake. Wake up and smell the coffee. It's burnt dry, the coffee pot bottom has broken, and ruined the cooker.
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Nov 2, 2023 10:50:44 GMT -5
I've got a hard conversation to have with my friend: I have to cancel the mattress removal. I don't know:
1. Where my friend is moving to: I need an address for the waste collection men. 2. When she is moving: tomorrow? Monday? 3. How she'll move the mattress to the outside at 6:30am: when she has said she isn't able to.
I can't help because I am not wonder-woman and Vicky needs to do some of this herself. If she is refusing to take the mattress outside her property there is nothing I can do.
I've got a hard conversation to have with my friend: I have to cancel the mattress removal. I don't know:
1. Where my friend is moving to: I need an address for the waste collection men. 2. When she is moving: tomorrow? Monday? 3. How she'll move the mattress to the outside at 6:30am: when she has said she isn't able to.
I can't help because I am not wonder-woman and Vicky needs to do some of this herself. If she is refusing to take the mattress outside her property there is nothing I can do.
If you want a good time, ask her when she is moving out, coz I bet there will be a great street party there the following day.
Just remember her next neighbours in your prayers.
I've got a hard conversation to have with my friend: I have to cancel the mattress removal. I don't know:
1. Where my friend is moving to: I need an address for the waste collection men. 2. When she is moving: tomorrow? Monday? 3. How she'll move the mattress to the outside at 6:30am: when she has said she isn't able to.
I can't help because I am not wonder-woman and Vicky needs to do some of this herself. If she is refusing to take the mattress outside her property there is nothing I can do.
? I am very confused here. Where is the mattress? If it's where she is moving from then surely she can leave it and she will get charged for it's removal. I suppose the point is whether it is a council property. What other furniture is being moved and who is doing that?
Personally, if she is not open with things, I would lie low and wait until she has moved. If she's not able she should get professional help. If 'muggins' is happy to do the work then officialdom will happily take a back seat.
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Nov 3, 2023 5:17:18 GMT -5
I've cancelled the mattress removal with the council: I will receive a refund in the next few days.
If Vicky is refusing to put the mattress outside to be collected, then there is nothing I can do. Vicky will simply have to organize it herself: because I can't physically put the mattress outside for her. I can request the workmen collect it, but that is all I can do. Well, what I could've done.
She will have to do it through her social worker herself.
If Vicky is refusing to put the mattress outside to be collected, then there is nothing I can do. Vicky will simply have to organize it herself: because I can't physically put the mattress outside for her. I can request the workmen collect it, but that is all I can do. Well, what I could've done.
She will have to do it through her social worker herself.
Little diva expecting other people to do stuff for her.
Sorry but she needs a swift kick up the backside and a lesson in common decency. You clean your own mess, you dont leave it to others.
Little diva expecting other people to do stuff for her.
Sorry but she needs a swift kick up the backside and a lesson in common decency. You clean your own mess, you dont leave it to others.
I have to agree with this. There's no point organizing stuff for her: she won't reciprocate. I couldn't physically go to her previous property and move the mattress for her: and she said she couldn't do it herself. I won't bother next time. I thought I was helping her by organizing to have her old mattress removed but all she did was complain. Again, I won't bother next time. She'll have to fork out for it.
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Feb 3, 2024 16:18:56 GMT -5
She's trying to do her best. Life is hard for her: and it has made her hard. She definitely does not hold back her opinions. I can see what made Vicky. I wonder if I would be the same had I had her upbringing. It is so easy to be looking in: but when you're on the inside it isn't so easy to explain.
She's trying to do her best. Life is hard for her: and it has made her hard. She definitely does not hold back her opinions. I can see what made Vicky. I wonder if I would be the same had I had her upbringing. It is so easy to be looking in: but when you're on the inside it isn't so easy to explain.
Vicky is complex.
If she wants help, these guys are properly qualified and are free.
She's trying to do her best. Life is hard for her: and it has made her hard. She definitely does not hold back her opinions. I can see what made Vicky. I wonder if I would be the same had I had her upbringing. It is so easy to be looking in: but when you're on the inside it isn't so easy to explain.
Vicky is complex.
If she wants help, these guys are properly qualified and are free.
I wish she did want help: but she gets angry and aggressive with people whom try to help her. She will complain about everyone: the charity Christmas meal should have delivered her food to her door: when she should've told the man BEFORE he left to pick her up that she didn't want to go. The social worker is f*cking useless: in her words. The crisis team at the hospital don't listen. The Samaritans don't have enough time to listen to her. The ambulance service "laughed" at her: when they were being cheerful to cheer her up. She's even gotten aggressive with me when how was I supposed to know? I'm not a mind reader.
Vicky can't be helped and I've come to accept to just leave her to it.
She hasn't given me any money back: and I don't expect she ever will. But I paid for her taxi with my eyes wide open.
And actually, she DOES have a bank card: she received it a few weeks ago. She'll just have to use it. Because I won't always be there when she misses the bus.
She hasn't given me any money back: and I don't expect she ever will. But I paid for her taxi with my eyes wide open.
And actually, she DOES have a bank card: she received it a few weeks ago. She'll just have to use it. Because I won't always be there when she misses the bus.
You are certain you are getting something out of this friendship?
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Feb 18, 2024 3:09:15 GMT -5
I do believe Vicky is here to learn just as everyone else is.
I spoke to my dad about Vicky. He explained to me how lonely and bleak she must feel. She has no family or friends and people reject her. That kind of loneliness has killed many people. Vicky must be going through hell: no wonder she wants to kill herself. I am on the outside: I've got friends and family. I have so much: what does Vicky have? I won't apologise for my hard work, though. Still, Vicky has it very hard.
Her solution is online dating: she needs a man to love. Someone who can heal her world.
I have sympathy for Vicky but I won't be her fool.
My friend is a troublemaker. This is her track record:
1. She has a history of assault
2. She has physically fought off 6 policemen on occasion
3. She has a history of damage to property
4. She calls the police f**king c*nts
5. She has telephoned the ambulance when feeling suicidal - this is millions of times
6. She has had to attend court hearings for these crimes
7. She has been seeing people she has been advised not to visit - they agree to this
8. She has no respect or regard for nurses - she assaulted a nurse
9. She can't get a volunteer job because she has a criminal record
10. A potential employer would have to be told of her criminal record before hiriing her
11. She now has problems finding properties to live in because of her criminal record
Im quoting your first post as a reference. What does your dad know that you havent told us ? What is the key factor that excuses the above behaviour and all the subsequent behaviours you have posted about? because from where I am Vikki comes across as a troubled woman but one who is determined to set about making trouble for herself ( self fulfilling prophecies) .
She says she needs help, then attacks those who try to help her - result they walk away so she can then claim no one will help her..
She has broken property and been abusive to neighbours result ..her neighbours dislike her and she can then justify her claim that people hate her.
She cant get a job again she claims no one likes her but she has broken the law more than once and has a criminal record so what does she expect.
She has created many of her own problems , she constantly pushes away anyone there to help including her social worker she abuses friendships including you, just this week there was the taxi you paid for money you wont see again. Yet is she thankful grateful or contrite about her mistakes of course not she is a right madam who thinks the world owes her a favour.
Well the fact is the world has been pretty sh1t for a lot of us.. A lot of us have had to fight for what we have and by fight I mean work damn hard struggle every day and face adversity day after day without a helping hand yet we dont go round causing trouble for other people, we dont imapct on peoples lives, break property or abuse people.
An event in your childhood, a mental or physical disability might make life hard for you, but its your problem to deal with you cannot go through life punishing other innocent people for something that is wrong in your life and Vikki needs to learn this. Sooner or later she will meet someone who wont take her nonsense and its going to end badly.
I do believe Vicky is here to learn just as everyone else is.
I spoke to my dad about Vicky. He explained to me how lonely and bleak she must feel. She has no family or friends and people reject her. That kind of loneliness has killed many people. Vicky must be going through hell: no wonder she wants to kill herself. I am on the outside: I've got friends and family. I have so much: what does Vicky have? I won't apologise for my hard work, though. Still, Vicky has it very hard.
Her solution is online dating: she needs a man to love. Someone who can heal her world.
I have sympathy for Vicky but I won't be her fool.
Vicky is very lucky to have a friend like you but you must take care of yourself before you can care for someone else.
Vicky is very lucky to have a friend like you but you must take care of yourself before you can care for someone else.
Thank you, alsr.
I don't like hurting Vicky and feel terrible when I sometimes don't answer her calls. But there are times I am unable to talk. Although I realize you're not suggesting I upset Vicky!
I just can't seem to walk away from Vicky: at least she is someone to talk to. But I stick to my boundaries: like not talking at 9pm.
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Feb 20, 2024 2:20:21 GMT -5
Vicky got arrested again yesterday/the day before yesterday.
When she was discharged she later telephoned me. She wanted to run away to a disused house because she's scared of her neighbour: who reported her to the police.
WTF? Why run away to a disused house? When she's safe where she is? Why would she put herself in danger like that? Why run from safe to dangerous? AND: NO ONE CARES. So if she's doing it to gain attention: no one will care in any way and no one will look for her. Also, she wanted me to pay for a taxi for her to come to where I live. But I simply could not afford it.
Vicky got arrested again yesterday/the day before yesterday.
When she was discharged she later telephoned me. She wanted to run away to a disused house because she's scared of her neighbour: who reported her to the police.
WTF? Why run away to a disused house? When she's safe where she is? Why would she put herself in danger like that? Why run from safe to dangerous? AND: NO ONE CARES. So if she's doing it to gain attention: no one will care in any way and no one will look for her. Also, she wanted me to pay for a taxi for her to come to where I live. But I simply could not afford it.
Vicky has nowhere to run.
It sounds like she was trying to weedle her way in to your place. I tend to think that something of the nature of boot camp or extended living in a situation in which she is forced to learn to live with and appreciate people, and forming relationships, is perhaps the only thing which may save her.
Vicky got arrested again yesterday/the day before yesterday.
When she was discharged she later telephoned me. She wanted to run away to a disused house because she's scared of her neighbour: who reported her to the police.
WTF? Why run away to a disused house? When she's safe where she is? Why would she put herself in danger like that? Why run from safe to dangerous? AND: NO ONE CARES. So if she's doing it to gain attention: no one will care in any way and no one will look for her. Also, she wanted me to pay for a taxi for her to come to where I live. But I simply could not afford it.
Vicky has nowhere to run.
The question here is why did the neighbour report her? The police dont waste time arresting people for silly things so it must have been serious.
Think about it.. She has caused the neighbour such problems that they phoned the police, most people wont do that until they are at the end of their rope.. The police arrested her so there was enough truth and proof in what the neighbour said..
But yet again your friend has made this all about her all about how everyone is ganging up on her... poor little me, she is playing the victim and playing you like a fiddle.
I agree with Jen this woman needs to be locked up somewhere for her own good .
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Feb 20, 2024 6:58:04 GMT -5
Vicky did struggle with the police. Picturing it: they must've tackled her and pinned her down, whilst she shouted and struggled with them. No doubt swearing as she shouted. That isn't the image of a victim. If she'd had nothing to hide, why struggle with three grown policemen? And I know she has been throwing things across her flat and throwing things out the window, disturbing her neighbours. She also knocked on her neighbour's door, asking about some rubbish. The neighbour was not taking that and told Vicky to f**k off.
Unfortunately you're all right: she is playing it up, claiming people are ganging up on her. But every time I picture those three policemen pinning her down, I realize she is NOT the victim.
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Feb 26, 2024 1:36:41 GMT -5
Vicky's run away again: this time from her temporary accommodation. But I wouldn't pay for her to have a hotel room or even pay for a taxi to come here. According to Vicky she's been assaulted and isn't going back. Unless Vicky can magic up a few £1000 she's stuck where she is.
Stuck it up, Vicky. You've got nowhere to run. You're trapped and there is nothing you can do. Unless you win the lottery and live on a desert island.
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