Post by Popcorn&Candy on Feb 2, 2023 8:13:08 GMT -5
My friend realised I'd blocked her on my phone: she wasn't happy. However, I explained why and she understood. We now have a new rule that she is not to telephone after 9:30pm. She has also said I just need to say I don't want to talk if she calls at a bad time.
They were hard words, but I am glad my friend was able to be honest with me: rather than hold a grudge that festers and poisons the friendship.
We now have a new rule that she is not to telephone after 9:30pm
I am probably old fashioned and we did grow up without having any kind of phone until I was perhaps in my teens, or just before. As such my phone is never on at that kind of time anyway and a call on the landline will be ignored after bedtime. We have no bedroom extension anyway. Hate phones and refuse to be dominated by them like most people are.
We now have a new rule that she is not to telephone after 9:30pm
I am probably old fashioned and we did grow up without having any kind of phone until I was perhaps in my teens, or just before. As such my phone is never on at that kind of time anyway and a call on the landline will be ignored after bedtime. We have no bedroom extension anyway. Hate phones and refuse to be dominated by them like most people are.
It is a general rule that calls after 9 are urgent.
I have my phone set on a bedtime mode after 10 pm so all the idiotic stuff doesn't ping or ring in the middle of the night, people who are on my close contacts list would only ring me late if it was an emergency and then to be honest I don't care if it's 2 a.m..
I honestly hate the current state of suicide prevention. I've dealt with suicidal thoughts in the past and I've had my experience with hotlines as well as WARM lines. By the way, never call a suicide hotline for common problems like loneliness as this would allow them to only devote ten or so minutes as to keep the line clear for those in an immediately crisis. Do call a national suicide hotline if you require information concerning WARM lines which are essentially the same thing but mostly for people who just need someone to talk to in the moment. Regardless, a lot of the time the people who answer the hotlines never seem trained to handle such situations or understand the potential reasons for why a person maybe suicidal. I've even managed to turn someone on the other end of the call silent because some of my thought patterns were ones that they didn't know how to answer. And of course, there are companies out there who much rather call the cops despite the person saying they have a handle on their mental health instead of improving their products or services. Especially when a lot of the times calling the cops can elevate a situation to even more dangerous levels and even if the more passive outcome occurred then the person would be checked into a mental health facility which is practically a place where "normal" people go to treat those with mental disorders and mental illnesses like lesser beings. It is almost enough to make one give up on any kind of suicide prevention entirely and rely solely on our evolutionary survival mechanism that keeps us yearning to survive due to our fear of death. Which actually makes deaths by suicide even more tragic as that means the environmental conditions outweighed that fear of death. Yet nobody ever wants to acknowledge why so they could repair things as not to cause another death. I really hate how in the United States alone mental health and suicide get neglected because a lot of organizations are too afraid to change the status quo as to improve conditions for the person.
Matthew 25:40, NRSV said:
And the king will answer them, 'Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.
Leaf if you're willing to tell us this then you need to come and tell us why. If you're here telling us this you need to come and let us help you find someone to help you. Many sites won't allow these kinds of posts. There are national hotlines you can call. Most people who truly want to kill themselves don't announce it. If you want help then get it.
...seems like a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Hint: Aside from terminal/chronic illnesses they're all temporary.
If they’re all temporary problems then it feels like it’s an answer to all of them honestly. Plus non-existence is a luxury and I don’t deserve such luxuries. I wouldn’t worry about me departing this world for that very reason.
Matthew 25:40, NRSV said:
And the king will answer them, 'Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.
Leaf if you're willing to tell us this then you need to come and tell us why. If you're here telling us this you need to come and let us help you find someone to help you. Many sites won't allow these kinds of posts. There are national hotlines you can call. Most people who truly want to kill themselves don't announce it. If you want help then get it.
The National Suicide Prevention Hotline doesn’t do shit since a lot of their operators are ill equipped to actually promote change in the person’s environment. It is really a means of just encouraging a person to continue to live in Hell because of some made-up reason. I’ve called them several times. Also, Trans Lifeline is probably the most useless one of them all since there is nobody ever available and given how a lot of the times a crisis occurs at night they lack the required staff to handle such situations.
And most suicidal people tend to have a dark sense of humor and frequently allude to them ending it all. So, most of them do announce it, and people pass it off as nothing. Rhetoric about suicidal people is completely unhelpful and only contributes to our poor mental health system.
Matthew 25:40, NRSV said:
And the king will answer them, 'Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.
Leaf if you're willing to tell us this then you need to come and tell us why. If you're here telling us this you need to come and let us help you find someone to help you. Many sites won't allow these kinds of posts. There are national hotlines you can call. Most people who truly want to kill themselves don't announce it. If you want help then get it.
The National Suicide Prevention Hotline doesn’t do shit since a lot of their operators are ill equipped to actually promote change in the person’s environment. It is really a means of just encouraging a person to continue to live in Hell because of some made-up reason. I’ve called them several times. Also, Trans Lifeline is probably the most useless one of them all since there is nobody ever available and given how a lot of the times a crisis occurs at night they lack the required staff to handle such situations.
And most suicidal people tend to have a dark sense of humor and frequently allude to them ending it all. So, most of them do announce it, and people pass it off as nothing. Rhetoric about suicidal people is completely unhelpful and only contributes to our poor mental health system.
So you posted to get a reaction and now you have, you just want to tell us that you were having a moment of dark humour and our advice is useless anyway?
Thanks.. For someone who has been through this pain 3 times I dont find it a laughing matter dark or otherwise...
I find it sad to say but the people I am aware of who have commited suicide (including a relative) gave little clue that they were about to end it all. Being able to argue the point about the facillites available really does not mean much to me.
I find it sad to say but the people I am aware of who have commited suicide (including a relative) gave little clue that they were about to end it all. Being able to argue the point about the facillites available really does not mean much to me.
Most of the people I'm aware of never say a word. We lost a nurse at one of the hospitals. You never even knew she was depressed. She went home from work one night and killed herself. I cried cuz I knew her. I served her food every day. Nice lady. I will say that the mental health facilities and workers are very lacking in today's world. It is difficult to get properly diagnosed and get decent care. Most of it is sub par.
I find it sad to say but the people I am aware of who have commited suicide (including a relative) gave little clue that they were about to end it all. Being able to argue the point about the facillites available really does not mean much to me.
Indeed. My father did the shopping ,talked to a neighbour cooked a meal ,laid the table then turned the heat down and killed himself. My brother was on a night out had a beer a laugh with mates but on the way home took a detour to end his life. The third went to work told my mum he would see her at 10 and asked her to give tea to his daughter who was coming over for the weekend. Then on they way to work he stopped went to the park and there he ended his life.
Three times , no drama no threats, no warning . Yes problems in the past with MH issues but nothing to indicate that this was their last day.
Post by Rebecca Jo on Mar 25, 2023 17:36:34 GMT -5
One of my cousins on my dad's side killed himself one weekend when his parents were away. Pretty sure no one knew that was a possibility.
And my mum's dad didn't bother talking things out when he got a cancer diagnosis in his 80's. Just ended things himself rather than have to go through treatment and being in hospital.
My ex? He threatened suicide to get attention...
I wouldn't say to brush it off when someone talks about ending their life or assume that they're not for real, but we had no way to help them and that's so frustrating years later. I think there's hope if you can get someone talking things out and point them toward support. None of our problems last forever, and there could be help out there to get past what seems world-ending now. Sometimes perspective changes and that will make all the difference.
And my mum's dad didn't bother talking things out when he got a cancer diagnosis in his 80's. Just ended things himself rather than have to go through treatment and being in hospital.
I think I'd do the same, as bad as that sounds. Also, if someone told me I was going to be homeless - and there was no chance AT ALL - of ever having a roof over my head again, I would kill myself. If I had a severe bowel problem, I'd also kill myself.
I know all this sounds terrible, but I simply wouldn't be able to live with those problems. Having cancer/being homeless/having a severe bowel problem would all end in my killing myself: I just know it.
And my mum's dad didn't bother talking things out when he got a cancer diagnosis in his 80's. Just ended things himself rather than have to go through treatment and being in hospital.
I think I'd do the same, as bad as that sounds. Also, if someone told me I was going to be homeless - and there was no chance AT ALL - of ever having a roof over my head again, I would kill myself. If I had a severe bowel problem, I'd also kill myself.
I know all this sounds terrible, but I simply wouldn't be able to live with those problems. Having cancer/being homeless/having a severe bowel problem would all end in my killing myself: I just know it.
I hope you never do but we all have problems. They just change over time. Not all are health problems. Some of the things you mention in your life are things I would not wish to have and I expect there are many in mine you would not be wanting to live with either.
One of my cousins on my dad's side killed himself one weekend when his parents were away. Pretty sure no one knew that was a possibility.
And my mum's dad didn't bother talking things out when he got a cancer diagnosis in his 80's. Just ended things himself rather than have to go through treatment and being in hospital.
My ex? He threatened suicide to get attention...
I wouldn't say to brush it off when someone talks about ending their life or assume that they're not for real, but we had no way to help them and that's so frustrating years later. I think there's hope if you can get someone talking things out and point them toward support. None of our problems last forever, and there could be help out there to get past what seems world-ending now. Sometimes perspective changes and that will make all the difference.
My friend has also threatened suicide. Of course, she has no intention of killing herself but she likes to say it. It is like when she purposely cut herself BUT it was a very small nick. She couldn't do it the way a real self harmer would. Someone who self harmed wouldn't stop at a small nick.
Anyhow, it is all to get attention. If she truly wanted to die, she'd kill herself before telling anyone.
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