It's nice to be liked but my thoughts are that you should stay honest to your beliefs. Try to understand other points of view and vary yours if you realise that they have been wrong. I won't budge if I believe I am right but will admit that I do sometimes get it wrong. Really it is in understanding and empathy. There is often no right answer.
Three of us shared a flat, and two of us used to argue a lot. I recall one particular evening, we had been arguing over an hour, when the third flatmate pointed out that we were saying much the same thing.
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Feb 13, 2022 6:35:44 GMT -5
Also, we may like to be nice and empathise with others, but that doesn't mean others do the same as us. There are truly horrible people in the world and I shall never empathise with them. Plus, the person on here is right: if someone does not like me, that is their loss. That makes THEM the loser: not me. Also - back to people not being nice - sometimes you have to not associate with some people and be glad you're not their friend. Some people ARE truly awful and I am glad I don't get along with them.
Also, we may like to be nice and empathise with others, but that doesn't mean others do the same as us. There are truly horrible people in the world and I shall never empathise with them. Plus, the person on here is right: if someone does not like me, that is their loss. That makes THEM the loser: not me. Also - back to people not being nice - sometimes you have to not associate with some people and be glad you're not their friend. Some people ARE truly awful and I am glad I don't get along with them.
I like to empathise with horrible people to some extent. It is a learning process.
Speaking to them or having anything to do with them is another matter,
I have a small circle of friends which I started to introduce to my husband after we got engaged. He quickly understood this friendship. One of the guys summed it up last night at dinner: We might have this type of dinner only 4-5 time a year but we can always count on everyone at this table to be there for each other, whether just for a quick conversation or when we need an ear, or when we need something more crucial...
I am very lucky to have these people in my life. Not only that we are compatible in every aspects of our life, we make time to connect, we are genuinely thoughtful toward each other and make an effort to stay in each other's life.
I suddenly remember a friend in college. She and her husband got divorced. The divorve was so bad, he kicked her out of the house three weeks before the divorce was finalized, she had nowhere to go, she called me at almost midnight. I went to pick her up. I still remember what my ex told her husband that night " Jim, this day will be a day you will look back and can't understand how you could do this". A month later, she found out she was pregnant. We helped her find a place, she went back to work. She had her daughter two weeks before I had my son, we went to visit her and there was the husband. I was surprise and did not know if that was a good or bad sign. I seldomly hear from her since then. I just looked her up, still in that fancy house with the husband, I am wondering how her life is.
Then there is another one, my son's kindergarten teacher. She was born and grew up in this country but after college, she was sent back to Korea to marry a lawyer there. She got pregnant, could not get along with the MIL, she went back to the US. Husband went back and forth, they got two more kids. One day, MIL decided to move to the State with them, she could not stand her. They were on the verge of a divorce, she lived upstairs with the kids and hubby and mommy lived downstairs. She called me one day to tell me that she needed to have a surgery and it has been scheduled but she needed someone to help her for a week. I told her she could stay at my house, made arrangement for the cook to follow the meal plan designated by the surgeon, ordered a chauffer service to take her kids to school ( her husband picked them up). The day before the surgery, I called to pick her up, she never picked up my call, until three months later, she called to apologize. She told me her husband offered to take care of everything and she planned to call me later. It was too late at that point. I already made up my mind she was not worth it.
I have come to a conclusion that I will focus on the real friends I have and stop being the good samaritan to everyone.
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Feb 15, 2022 3:05:07 GMT -5
So many people have little or no appreciation for good deeds done for them. I guess you just have to leave people to deal with their own mess. I certainly am not a good samaritan. Although I still sometimes do a nice gesture! I am not cold.
Anyhow, back to empathy: there's no point in trying to empathise with others. It just gets thrown back in your face. It's like I sent my friend and her mum a Christmas card each. I found out my friend didn't give her mum my card because she'd ripped it open herself to take out the cash. I am still angry about it today. I don't hold a grudge but I am not amused. She also never bothered reading the letters I sent her. I no longer send letters or cash. I certainly won't be so foolish again.
I think This more nice post here lol.. "In Islam there is a name ta'aruf which means that women and men do not meet and meet each other before marriage. it can be said that we get married to someone we don't know and go up what do you think about this?"
I think This more nice post here lol.. "In Islam there is a name ta'aruf which means that women and men do not meet and meet each other before marriage. it can be said that we get married to someone we don't know and go up what do you think about this?"
I think sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt just as in relationships where people date / have sex/ live together before marriage..
So many people have little or no appreciation for good deeds done for them. I guess you just have to leave people to deal with their own mess. I certainly am not a good samaritan. Although I still sometimes do a nice gesture! I am not cold.
Anyhow, back to empathy: there's no point in trying to empathise with others. It just gets thrown back in your face. It's like I sent my friend and her mum a Christmas card each. I found out my friend didn't give her mum my card because she'd ripped it open herself to take out the cash. I am still angry about it today. I don't hold a grudge but I am not amused. She also never bothered reading the letters I sent her. I no longer send letters or cash. I certainly won't be so foolish again.
I hope she at least told her mom you sent her a card.
I have been in two long term relationships, twice married, and both times we lived together first.
For me it is the preferred choice. I also prefer that my children are doing it too.
Even if we can't live together, we have to meet so frequently so that we can get to know each other.
We took turns to spend the weekend at each other's house for 3 years before we got engaged an another 19 months before we moved in together, we got married a year after that.
I have been in two long term relationships, twice married, and both times we lived together first.
For me it is the preferred choice. I also prefer that my children are doing it too.
Even if we can't live together, we have to meet so frequently so that we can get to know each other.
We took turns to spend the weekend at each other's house for 3 years before we got engaged an another 19 months before we moved in together, we got married a year after that.
Even if we can't live together, we have to meet so frequently so that we can get to know each other.
We took turns to spend the weekend at each other's house for 3 years before we got engaged an another 19 months before we moved in together, we got married a year after that.
And my girlfriends told me my husband was "well-trained" before we got married They did not have a clue.
Exactly. I won't be sending money to her again: least of all to her mother. I also was angry when my letters got ignored. I'd write a few pages, I'd use stickers and make it fun: my friend barely read them. So why bother anymore? They'd just end up in the bin. I would've thought someone would be delighted to receive letters like that: evidently not.
I guess I have to get over it: BUT I won't be so foolish again.
Exactly. I won't be sending money to her again: least of all to her mother. I also was angry when my letters got ignored. I'd write a few pages, I'd use stickers and make it fun: my friend barely read them. So why bother anymore? They'd just end up in the bin. I would've thought someone would be delighted to receive letters like that: evidently not.
I guess I have to get over it: BUT I won't be so foolish again.
I agreed. people who take us for granted don't deserve our attention and affection.
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Feb 23, 2022 8:14:12 GMT -5
Basically, if someone can't be bothered with us, why should we be bothered with them? If there's no appreciation, there is no point wasting one's time.
I am not angry with Vicky anymore, but what she did was wrong. But she has to learn that for herself. No one can make her someone she's not. I just realize, though, to not send money to her: I am not a free bank.
I won't tell you what I think of men cuz none of it is nice.
I think relationships in general are just difficult because people aren't genuine anymore. It's more of a popularity contest than it is a friendship anymore. I'm not into contests. You either have to take me as I am or not at all. I'm not gonna stop being me just so someone will accept me.
I generally don't give money to friends unless I don't care if I ever see it again cuz I know better. I had a coworker who used to ask me for gas money. She's got a disability of some sort so her sister is in control of her bank acct. I told her she'd have to call her sister because I wasn't an ATM.
i can understand why you would help your friend. i used to be more generous when i was younger and more naive. it's nice that you're giving but i'm sorry your friend took advantage.
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Feb 24, 2022 4:07:00 GMT -5
I'm sorry, too, Mary. But - fair play to her - she doesn't demand money and doesn't pressure me too much at all. But she did teach me a valuable lesson: and there is a difference between being a fool and a good samaritan.
As a monogamous person myself, I do consider it very inappropriate to do that while in a relationship (unless both parties are okay with it and are open, etc.), and I believe it could possibly lead to cheating eventually.... If comfortable enough to do that, then they may become comfortable to do other things together one day is my thoughts on it.
Obviously, some people have more restraint and will keep it to flirtations at a max, but I personally don't trust anyone enough to stop there if regularly doing this with the same person all the time. Feelings would likely grow over time.... I mean, that's how it began with me and my partner, so I will not allow it
Reading flirtatious messages to my partner really pisses me off, too. The last time this happened, it was from a married coworker of his! She called him a cute puppy (I could let that one slide more), and she even told him she wasn't wearing underwear (I could not let that one slide) LOL way too inappropriate.
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