The Unacceptable

Some may feel offended by a post and others may not. Who's to be the judge?

Truly knowing the intent of the person's post, that's the trick. And is one reason I continue to advocate for "insensitivity training".

I have refreshed my memory by re-reading the thread that started this off, and I still see it as targetting anti trans prejudice. I didn't regard it as 'hate speech' but simply prejudicial, and probably through culture. Had it been 'hate speech' dealing with it would have been a lot easier.

As moderators the three of us can only do our best, and on this occasion our discussion over the issue was very brief, as we were all of the exact same opinion. 

TBH it is not really a problem we have come across before. The only other incident was over race, and that was dealt with in a lot less reasonable manner, but we have learned from that.

Speaking for myself, after seeing all the responses from all who joined in this thread, I still think we are on the right track.

Purr.

I got confused. Excuse me . I am an orchid, not a feline

Sure, sure.

I respect your pov, but I feel that people will only criticise being pc until it affects them. Then they will cry bigot.

In the case of the discussion that we have disapproved of, there is a minority being attacked to their very core. It is no different from telling a man with a low sperm count that he is not a man. < That is a discussion that we would not encourage here either.

I am not certain that we are not comparing apples and oranges. Maybe I am just not seeing past the discussion that we are trying to discourage.

Can you give me an example of the sort of criticism you are referring to?

I think we may be a little bit at crossed purposes here. I thought afterwards and realised I was thinking more personally than in the general sense with most people in this:



My tendency is actually to go against the herd in the first instance as I realise how easy it is to be swayed by public opinion. Indeed it is quite often that public opinion is often swayed to the point that it is not easily changed (even corrected) just by the voice or organisation shouts the loudest. Even by revulsion. This is where all these "false flag" operations that they speak of in the Ukraine intentions come from. Often called "the fog of war". In this way I often, at least initially, appear at odds to people. In that way I have often been 'sent to Coventry'. I prefer to avoid such scenes here so don't speak, more often than not. It can be hard and even dangerous to be different.

An interesting example, obviously not directly relevant, which I have no previous knowledge on. I have just watched an episode of "Forensic Detectives" on TV in which a doctor was charged and convicted of murder of his wife. He was later found not to have done it, but suffered 10 years in jail. The original trial was pushed through and lots of evidence left out as the police, other authorities and the general public, for the most part, wanted quick results and made assumptions. It's not unusual. Assumptions cost lives!

Taking your point about "criticise pc". I think that a lot of this is similar to being a "jobsworth" or following the motions. Being "pc" seems to be more a buzzword to be enforced, or the latest fad, rather than people actually thinking about others (of all feelings in a disputed subject). I often see it as a let's steamroller the changes through, rather than looking more deeply into the real situation.

I do take pris's point though. We should just move on. It gets deep and messy to do otherwise.

The paradox... intolerance of the intolerant ;p

I think you've hit the nail on the head, Mary: and more than once. You've pointed out
This quote stood out to me. All I ever say is love your neighbour: no matter their religion. I don't get involved in bible or religious talk. In fact, I wrote a post a few months back with my light hearted version of the 10 commandments. Just for a light hearted contribution to a thread about religion.



There is a grain of truth to this. I do also believe everyone is judgemental to some degree.

Your post points out a lot, Mary.