Post by priscillams on Mar 4, 2015 13:49:11 GMT -5
"Anyone who kills or supports killing in the name of religion goes against the first commandment of their God and therefore has no right to claim moral highground ..
Best to stick to the biblical lesson and say Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...."
Tell that to the radical Islamists who flew two 747 passenger jets into the World Trade Center. Some stone huh.
"Anyone who kills or supports killing in the name of religion goes against the first commandment of their God and therefore has no right to claim moral highground ..
Best to stick to the biblical lesson and say Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...."
Tell that to the radical Islamists who flew two 747 passenger jets into the World Trade Center. Some stone huh.
You have not explained how you can in all honesty make this statement. You have provided no basis of fact for it and you have given no reason why their God is false and yours not.
I challenge you in simple factual terms (not reams of theroretical scripture) to explain how you come to this conculsion and to give factual documented proof of it.
Please also provide proof of why your religion is right and others are wrong and also how your God differs from any other.
My point is not to debate the existence of God or the labeling of any religion as “right”. My point is that we have relatively recent examples of the horrors that can happen when civilized nations ignore or attempt to legitimize death cults such as Iran and other associated Islamic Jihadists. I see virtually no difference between (WWII) Hitler’s Nazi Germany, Japan’s samurai Bushido code and Iran’s ayatollah.
Iran must not be allowed to have a nuclear weapon it is a threat to Israel, the USA and Western civilization. Perhaps my views do not fit the this “religion” thread, oops.
Hitler had nothing to do with religion, he wanted to annex more of Europe and take control from the jews. The Bushido code is nothing to do with wars or religion, it is a set of moral principles.
I agree that Iran should not have nuclear weaponry, but only because their government is so alien to the West, and they make me nervous.
TBH I would rather the West had fewer nuclear weapons.
The statement made that the God if Islam is false has still not been answered... The fact is that Islam along with The Jews and the Christians have their roots in the same Abrahamic base.By decrying the god of Islam to be false you cast doubt on that of the Christians and the Jews.
Your comparison with Hitler holds no water as pointed out by Cherry.
As for being a godian
*Godianism does not look down upon or despise another religion, nor does it use force or coercion to impose its belief on others. With its message of universal unity and its philosophy of 'biri ka'm biri' (live and let live), it serves as an eye opener to those who still peddle religion in the market place by means fair and/or foul to win the world for this 'ism' or that 'ism'.Godianism on the other hand brings harmony and unity among the people of different religions in spite of their diversities.*
Maybe you need to spend some time studying your own religious doctrine before condemming others..
Yet again religious discussion with those who believe but have no proper depth of understanding shows how easily led people are.
Post by jengurl1987 on Mar 6, 2015 13:19:07 GMT -5
Within every religion there are bad people as well as good people. As a Godian, I try to treat people nicely. I've known Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, and Christians. Those that I've known have been very nice; my intent was not to trash other religions. What I was trying to say was that their God isn't false; it was some misguided individuals within their religions. I believe that it's a small %age that create a negative image for the majority.
Last Edit: Mar 6, 2015 13:23:25 GMT -5 by jengurl1987
Depending on the person, I think it does have something to do with having differing beliefs and ways of life. Some people are completely against anyone else living their life or practicing a different religion than them, and they will go about demonstrating this in various ways. Some much more extreme and filled with hatred than others, of course...
Let me say one more thing and I’ll shut up (this thread I mean).
I know nothing about Islam. But I do wonder what really is in the Quran. It seems to me Sharia Law is the issue. Sharia Law seems, to me, to promote and justify this Jihadi violence. Is Sharia Law really part of the Quran….what does the Quran really include?
I think if the West better understood the evolution and history of Sharia Law, it might better understand ISIS.
If you read one line it says, kill people who disbelieve. The next will say that vengeance is only for god to take.
I expect the islamics are no better than us at choosing the line that suits them best, especially the nutters amongst them [excuse the technical terms].
After all, are we really turning the other cheek?
The only difference between us and them, is that our nutters are not [currently] on a world crusade.
Post by jengurl1987 on Mar 12, 2015 14:15:28 GMT -5
Today on Public Radio I listened to an interview with a prof from Columbia University concerning the birth of ISIS. He said that if the U.S. hadn't invaded Iraq it was very unlikely that ISIS would have developed. Just when I thought that W. was gone, his legacy hovers over us today.
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