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Is this a good thing? Jan 12, 2015 6:41:54 GMT -5

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Post by a_muppet on Jan 12, 2015 6:41:54 GMT -5

I cannot help but think negatively of this job creation plan. Am I missing something?

Leaflets or fliers, I am sure they are as prevalent in your letterbox as mine.

Ok, the cycle that keeps people in employment and earning money.

Need leaflet
Design it
produce paper
sell paper
buy paper
deliver paper
print it
distribute it
drive it
letterbox it
bin it
collect it
recycle it
distribute it
drive it
store it

Need leaflet

Design it

produce paper

sell paper

buy paper

deliver paper

print it

distribute it

drive it

letterbox it

bin it

collect it

recycle it

distribute it

drive it

store it

Need leaflet

Design it

produce paper

sell paper

buy paper

deliver paper

print it

distribute it

drive it

letterbox it

bin it

collect it

recycle it

distribute it

drive it

store it

I have probably left a few out, but jeez, is this the right way to run an economy? Particularly when most of us are only glancing briefly at the top line, before binning these things and moaning at their intrusion into our lives?

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Is this a good thing? Jan 12, 2015 11:59:21 GMT -5

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Post by heatherly on Jan 12, 2015 11:59:21 GMT -5

Yep, it's wasteful more times than not. They may do better with local ad placement on the internet =p No guarantees, though!

The fliers I look at are ones containing coupons or local grocery stores that I actually go to or have thought about going to. Anything else is discarded instantly.

a_muppet Global Moderator Posts: 35,010	Is this a good thing? Jan 12, 2015 12:26:33 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by a_muppet on Jan 12, 2015 12:26:33 GMT -5 Did you miss my point, Heather? I recognise that lots of jobs have been created, but is there any point?
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heatherly Administrator Maintain low tones! Posts: 16,394	Is this a good thing? Jan 12, 2015 12:51:59 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by heatherly on Jan 12, 2015 12:51:59 GMT -5 lol I just woke up when I was reading your post, my focus ended up being about fliers because you repeated the process of it so much LOL I could not think of anything else, sorry! I can be easily distracted ;-)

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Is this a good thing? Jan 12, 2015 13:06:49 GMT -5

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Post by heatherly on Jan 12, 2015 13:06:49 GMT -5

What's wrong with creating more job opportunities?

What is the alternative? Shoving everyone into the jobs we already have available, even if they aren't particularly cut out for it?

Here is my (hopefully) simplified explanation... What if all the jobs that were available were a, b, c, and d.. but I would do better with e? However, all the jobs in e are taken or are extremely limited, and nobody intends to focus on adding more e jobs? I would excel in e, but I can only choose between a-d.

Maybe with job creation plans they intend on adding more "e jobs" as well =p It could create more options, more people excelling, and more growth.

Did that make sense? lol

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Is this a good thing? Jan 12, 2015 13:20:51 GMT -5

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It is a conundrum isn't it?

Is growth so important that we are wasting energy producing leaflets that will ultimately be recycled into leaflets?

Would it be more fruitful job wise, if I threw the leaflet out onto the street, ao that an extra sweeper-upper would be employed?

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Is this a good thing? Jan 12, 2015 13:23:20 GMT -5

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Post by jengurl1987 on Jan 12, 2015 13:23:20 GMT -5

This may be slightly off the topic, but why is it that in past years everyone wanted the price of oil to go down and now that it has, the Wall Street gurus say that the stock market goes down because people are paying LESS for gas???

a_muppet Global Moderator Posts: 35,010	Is this a good thing? Jan 12, 2015 14:21:37 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by a_muppet on Jan 12, 2015 14:21:37 GMT -5 I forget the reason for that, but I do recall that they prefer changes either up or down to be gradual, not jumping in either direction.
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Is this a good thing? Jan 12, 2015 14:49:25 GMT -5

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Jan 12, 2015 14:21:37 GMT -5 a_muppet said:

I forget the reason for that, but I do recall that they prefer changes either up or down to be gradual, not jumping in either direction.

Does the quote, "what goes up must come down", apply to the stock market? =p

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Is this a good thing? Jan 12, 2015 15:02:09 GMT -5

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Post by a_muppet on Jan 12, 2015 15:02:09 GMT -5

Broadly speaking, it tends to rise slightly ahead of inflation over the longer term, but it can be a rocky ride every so often. But, again, broadly speaking, it will outperform leaving the money in the bank.

Though, it is highly unlikely that you will go bankrupt leaving your money in a bank.

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jengurl1987 Elite Member I Posts: 5,544	Is this a good thing? Jan 26, 2015 16:00:49 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jengurl1987 on Jan 26, 2015 16:00:49 GMT -5 Gasoline (Petrol, Cher ) is below $2 here now. What I don't understand is that one would think that if someone was paying less for gas, it would enable them to purchase other items to help the economy.
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a_muppet Global Moderator Posts: 35,010	Is this a good thing? Jan 26, 2015 17:28:48 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by a_muppet on Jan 26, 2015 17:28:48 GMT -5 Our gas price has also dropped substantially. We are now only paying $1.67. For one litre!!! You americans don't know you are born.
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Is this a good thing? Jan 27, 2015 19:53:56 GMT -5 a_muppet likes this

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Post by tricolporate on Jan 27, 2015 19:53:56 GMT -5

Actually, the reason slow change is preferred is that gives businesses time to adjust - a sudden change means the businesses that suffer (those depending on high oil prices, like exploration, oil fields suppliers, gas stations, etc) have no time to adjust and go bankrupt, while the ones that can profit (like shipping, plastics manufacturing, etc) have no time to adjust to take full advantage.
The result is a temporary spike in unemployment while everything catches up, and everyone agrees that is bad.

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Is this a good thing? Jan 28, 2015 11:56:54 GMT -5

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Post by sn000zy on Jan 28, 2015 11:56:54 GMT -5

Jan 26, 2015 17:28:48 GMT -5 a_muppet said:

Our gas price has also dropped substantially. We are now only paying $1.67.

For one litre!!!

You americans don't know you are born.

Geeeeze. Our highest gas prices were around 1.30 for a litre and now we are down in the .80's.

For us Canadians, as the gas prices drop our dollar loses value. We were at par with the mighty USD but now we are at .75 and still falling.

I'll take lower gas with a lower dollar any time, but that's because in my industry it means I will make more money.

However in April I will need some USD and I will be upset if my 600 CAD is only 300 USD like how it was pre September 11.

a_muppet Global Moderator Posts: 35,010	Is this a good thing? Jan 28, 2015 12:07:37 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by a_muppet on Jan 28, 2015 12:07:37 GMT -5 Now, if you were just in charge of the exchange rate..................
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jengurl1987 Elite Member I Posts: 5,544	Is this a good thing? Jan 28, 2015 14:40:22 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jengurl1987 on Jan 28, 2015 14:40:22 GMT -5 Well . . . there is that!

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Is this a good thing? Feb 7, 2015 19:24:47 GMT -5

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Post by jengurl1987 on Feb 7, 2015 19:24:47 GMT -5

Suzy, I know that I should have posted this on the music thread, but . . . do you know of the band "RUSH"? I like the things that I've heard and they are Canadians, eh.

See how I linked the Great White North into the conversation?

jengurl1987 Elite Member I Posts: 5,544	Is this a good thing? Mar 23, 2015 14:45:00 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jengurl1987 on Mar 23, 2015 14:45:00 GMT -5 What do you think of company-sponsored 401-K plans?

a_muppet Global Moderator Posts: 35,010	Is this a good thing? Mar 23, 2015 14:53:12 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by a_muppet on Mar 23, 2015 14:53:12 GMT -5 I know nothing about them, but, if the company are putting money in FOR you, what's not to like?
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Is this a good thing? Mar 23, 2015 15:13:53 GMT -5

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Post by jengurl1987 on Mar 23, 2015 15:13:53 GMT -5

Most companies put in an additional 5% of your weekly pay and then you have the option to have up to 15% put into the fund on your own.
Those that choose not to do that are crazy because it's so beneficial for long term goals.

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Is this a good thing? Mar 29, 2015 11:41:38 GMT -5 heatherly, a_muppet, and 1 more like this

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Post by jengurl1987 on Mar 29, 2015 11:41:38 GMT -5

Indiana's Governor, citing religious freedom is barring married gays and lesbians from restaurants, clubs, etc. in that state. Indiana business owners are pissed. What century is this? I'm confused.

a_muppet Global Moderator Posts: 35,010	Is this a good thing? Mar 29, 2015 13:57:33 GMT -5 heatherly likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by a_muppet on Mar 29, 2015 13:57:33 GMT -5 Surely the business owners are counting the lost revenue? Incidentally, what does a gay guy or a lesbian look like? I want to make sure I can spot them too.
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heatherly Administrator Maintain low tones! Posts: 16,394	Is this a good thing? Mar 29, 2015 14:13:51 GMT -5 a_muppet likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by heatherly on Mar 29, 2015 14:13:51 GMT -5 haha, right? Discrimination is discrimination...

jengurl1987 Elite Member I Posts: 5,544	Is this a good thing? Mar 29, 2015 15:16:02 GMT -5 a_muppet likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jengurl1987 on Mar 29, 2015 15:16:02 GMT -5 The NCAA has its Final Four in Indiana this year and have contacted the Governor. They said that unless this law is changed Indiana won't be hosting any future tournaments.

jengurl1987 Elite Member I Posts: 5,544	Is this a good thing? Mar 31, 2015 8:08:24 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jengurl1987 on Mar 31, 2015 8:08:24 GMT -5 And Cher, I don't know what a gay guy or lesbian looks like either. I'll take a wild guess here and say that they look like human beings.

heatherly Administrator Maintain low tones! Posts: 16,394	Is this a good thing? Mar 31, 2015 11:35:48 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by heatherly on Mar 31, 2015 11:35:48 GMT -5 I don't know, Jen, that sounds a bit too reasonable...

a_muppet Global Moderator Posts: 35,010	Is this a good thing? Mar 31, 2015 16:09:50 GMT -5 heatherly likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by a_muppet on Mar 31, 2015 16:09:50 GMT -5 Don't be silly. It was a trick question. You can spot them easily, as gays will all be in pink, and lesbians will all have crew cuts, shirts, trousers and braces!
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jengurl1987 Elite Member I Posts: 5,544	Is this a good thing? Mar 31, 2015 16:17:30 GMT -5 a_muppet likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jengurl1987 on Mar 31, 2015 16:17:30 GMT -5 Thanks for clearing that up for me! You don't know any do you?

a_muppet Global Moderator Posts: 35,010	Is this a good thing? Mar 31, 2015 17:17:48 GMT -5 heatherly likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by a_muppet on Mar 31, 2015 17:17:48 GMT -5 How dare you suggest that I might........ I am black affronted. [there's a good old fashioned scots expression for you]
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jengurl1987 Elite Member I Posts: 5,544	Is this a good thing? Mar 31, 2015 17:32:04 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jengurl1987 on Mar 31, 2015 17:32:04 GMT -5 The blancmanges turned everyone into Scotsmen. Are you a blancmange?

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