What is a woman?

You've been chatting with Pris, haven't you?

Please is it really going to hurt you personally ?

NO then leave people the heck alone..

As long as they are nice polite and harmless I dont give a flying fig what they call themselves.

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Hurt is not a loaded word it is quite simple has anyone from that community done you personal hurt or harm?

If not why do you feel the need to wade in on them? do you not think they have suffered enough abuse emotionally and mentally , do not think they face daily discrimination without people like yourself having an agenda against them.

Quite often these Media hype stories like the, we should all be called "chest feeders" are not born from the trans community, infact quite often they come from places of hate and they are designed to whip up a media storm.
As for being reasonable most people are reasonable until they feel that someone is out to get them and then of course they defend themselves and I don't blame them for that.

In my opinion, if a person feels happy and comfortable being a woman or a man, that's what defines them. The anatomy is secondary. If anyone says a woman must be able to reproduce, this is not a good definition because there are women having this problem. Again, this is my opinion.

So true Annie. This touches home for me...

Cattleya...

See my comments made this past September 14 2022. Good intentions have limits especially if they require one to abandon reality.

What about me? I feel like a bunny, so I guess I must be!

You might want to wait until John is completely well  before making decisions. Just my two cents.

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Descartes philosophy is about his doubting his senses hence he came up with musing in his own existence. It isn't the same as "I am what I feel I am."  

When it comes to pronouns, why all the hubbub? Seems all a lot to do about nothing.

I could talk to a person for hours with only using the second-person “you”.

If you want to share your personal pronouns with me, fine, just don’t ask me mine. We can converse amicably without having to accept the same ideology.

Why aren’t the people pushing the “pronoun agenda” not worried about a person not yet "ready to come out”? Or a person still unable to pick their identity?

Just because I am a realist and my pronouns obvious, doesn’t mean I should feel obligated into declaring mine. OK by YOU?

Ahem, although, I'm not a moderator (where are you all? , hehehe, and where is Cherry, btw? On holiday leave?), I shall remind everyone to keep this thread respectful and objective as much as possible. I acknowledged being responsible since I started this thread.

I don't understand the current complications of using the right pronouns other than its correct grammatical use. I can't weigh in to it since my mother tongue doesn't share the complexity it posits with some individuals being called their preferred pronouns in English language. My brain somehow doesn't regard any strong link to it although I speak English. Hence, my brain does not recognise a weighted problems to call anyone their own pronouns as they wish. I can call you whatever you want if that's what you wish. Not calling you for what you wish and prefer for is being impolite unless you want me to call you a controversial name (Hitler, for instance) that I should be wary of.

I'll probably have a hard time remembering to use the "they" and might end up using the person's name repeatedly, instead. Non-native English speakers (like me) may have studied English for years and adhere to communicate in English using correct grammar (we strive to be grammatically correct until we bleed our nose ) and using "they" on a singular person wouldn't make sense to us. If educators and lawmakers strive to make this a standard teaching in present generation of students learning English (native and non-native), then, I can see that it would be the norm in the future of English language.

Having said this, I think it's a good idea to make another thread about use of pronouns, Pris. Again, for intellectual discussions. I can share what I have read and discovered personally if this is a kind of discussion members would like to discussed with. It doesn't have to be specific to people who wish to be called "they" or "he" to a "she" or "she" to a "he." There are some political hubhub about the use of pronouns even before (woke). It's quite interesting and informative.