Post by Popcorn&Candy on Jun 4, 2022 9:05:15 GMT -5
Do YOU believe it is best to always be truthful? Or do you think white lies are necessary?
Personally, I like to be truthful but oftentimes it is best to tell a white lie. I think honesty is NOT always the best policy. But there ARE times when you must tell the truth. Othertimes lying is the only solution.
I know someone and she is brutally blunt with the truth. I like her a lot but I don't think I could be like that.
Post by TestDummyCO on Jun 4, 2022 11:05:28 GMT -5
If someone flat-out asks me my opinion, and I know they can handle the truth, then I will tell them that those jeans aren't the best fit for them...not that they make her butt look big. (Redirection isn't necessarily bad.)
One always has to ask oneself if there is anything to be gained by telling the truth. I would never tell anyone that someone else said something bad about them personally in the office...or that could be taken as such. What purpose would that serve other than to hurt someone's feelings and/or make them angry? It only serves to create tension and disrupt the office environment. (Lying by omission isn't necessarily bad.)
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Jun 5, 2022 1:39:38 GMT -5
Sometimes lying is an necessity: say you're surrounded by people who support some kind of figurehead: you're not going to admit you disagree with the crowd, are you? You'd pretend to also support the figurehead. Plus, sometimes you have to swallow your pride and act as if you agree: at least until you can get away.
Sometimes it's a bit difficult. One example being when I take an almost finished painting to our art group for opinions. People have a natural tendency to be kind but what I am really after at that point is brutal opinion so that I find out if I have (or have not yet) done something which can be readily remidied before I complete and varnish the painting. Mostly working alone, I find it very useful. It's not something which I could do online as the finer detail does not transfer to photographs easily.
The Dutch are often called rude. Thats not true, what they are is often brutally honest.
Ask a Dutch person does my bum look big in this and you wont just get a yes or no, you will get a 'OMG...you should have a wide load warning' or equally a 'are you mad? I would give my arm to look like you'
They often offer advice without warning, Ive seen someone come out of a dressing room and a passing stranger just said 'No, dont do it its awful' and walked on!
I bought a car my neighbour came out and said 'I dont like it , the colour is awful' ( it was green).
Tact, diplomacy, white lies, call it what you will I think it skipped The Netherlands...
The Dutch are often called rude. Thats not true, what they are is often brutally honest.
Ask a Dutch person does my bum look big in this and you wont just get a yes or no, you will get a 'OMG...you should have a wide load warning' or equally a 'are you mad? I would give my arm to look like you'
They often offer advice without warning, Ive seen someone come out of a dressing room and a passing stranger just said 'No, dont do it its awful' and walked on!
I bought a car my neighbour came out and said 'I dont like it , the colour is awful' ( it was green).
Tact, diplomacy, white lies, call it what you will I think it skipped The Netherlands...
The Dutch are often called rude. Thats not true, what they are is often brutally honest.
Ask a Dutch person does my bum look big in this and you wont just get a yes or no, you will get a 'OMG...you should have a wide load warning' or equally a 'are you mad? I would give my arm to look like you'
They often offer advice without warning, Ive seen someone come out of a dressing room and a passing stranger just said 'No, dont do it its awful' and walked on!
I bought a car my neighbour came out and said 'I dont like it , the colour is awful' ( it was green).
Tact, diplomacy, white lies, call it what you will I think it skipped The Netherlands...
Do you like it?
You get used to it. Im not really one for askng for opinions anyway. But I havent entirely got the hang of dishing it out... English upbringing to blame there !
You get used to it. Im not really one for askng for opinions anyway. But I havent entirely got the hang of dishing it out... English upbringing to blame there !
I have a friend, and he certainly calls a spade a spade. I asked him if he regretted it.
"F****** right, I do! The wife is always telling me off for it too."
You get used to it. Im not really one for askng for opinions anyway. But I havent entirely got the hang of dishing it out... English upbringing to blame there !
I have a friend, and he certainly calls a spade a spade. I asked him if he regretted it.
"F****** right, I do! The wife is always telling me off for it too."
OH is much better at it than me but Ive seen what happens when you tell the truth to the wrong person..
1999 Polperro Cornwall. We went into a pub and there was a very drunken hen do going on... A woman with make up applied with a trowel and a dress that wasnt sure if it had a low neck line or very high hem line approached OH , she wore a sash that read 'bride to be'.. she plonked herself in his lap and slurred how da ya think I look.?
OH looked at her and said 'like a cheap tart'..
She jumped up as if she had been stung and slapped him across the face.. 'How dare you' she screamed..
He didnt even blink, he just addressed he now outraged hen party and said.. Well she asked and I told her straight..
I dragged him out before 25 drunk and angry women could lynch him.
it depends on the situation at hand as to whether or not i will be totally truthful or put forth a white lie. many times if people come at me asking questions about how i feel about situations i will flat out give them a very blunt description of how i feel. if someone says i can't stand the boss how do you feel about her...i'm not gonna say nothing shitty and get fired. but i'm not gonna praise her for something she isn't either. one lady was ticked at me one day on the line and she told someone i hated her. i said point blank "i don't hate you but you're definitely not one of my favorite people" and i smirked. lol!
I go by honesty whenever possible, and I personally think it's possible almost all the time, but we don't often work hard enough to find tact or a misdirection.
My mind goes to a hypothetical scenario where the "bad guy" shouldn't be told where their intended victim is - something like that where the truth would actually be harmful if you told it. I would tend to believe that in such a situation, a story made up to save the "good guy" is merciful and fights against the "bad guy."
Other than that kind of scenario, let's be smarter and not lie to people, I say. We can lose their trust when we don't go with truth.
"Do I smell?" "Yes." "Do I look fat in this outfit?" "Yes." "Do you like me?" "No."
Whoever replies like this to me makes me hate others telling the truth.
Maybe our questions need to change a little, so it's easy for the person answering to be polite along with truthful. "I feel sweaty" or "I might need a deodorant refreshing!" might be better than a direct question of whether we smell. And never asking if we look fat in an outfit, just if it suits us... That doesn't excuse blunt answers that are hurtful, of course!
Maybe it would help for everyone to be dealing out grace and truth at the same time... Takes practice, though!
"Do I smell?" "Yes." "Do I look fat in this outfit?" "Yes." "Do you like me?" "No."
Whoever replies like this to me makes me hate others telling the truth.
I usually don't ask questions I don't want possible answers to them... if they could be negative. Sometimes we already know the answer deep down, so it only hurts us to hear it confirmed by someone we care about.
Last Edit: Jun 6, 2022 18:13:49 GMT -5 by heatherly
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Jun 8, 2022 6:38:44 GMT -5
Again, I know someone who believes in always telling the truth: she told my bestie she was fat. This was just telling the truth to the person: but my bestie didn't see it like that. My bestie didn't even ask for an opinion. This person can really lay it on thick. I don't hate or dislike the person: in fact, I get on very well with her and chat with her on the phone regularly. Still, she can be brutal with the truth.
Last Edit: Jun 8, 2022 6:39:19 GMT -5 by Popcorn&Candy
Again, I know someone who believes in always telling the truth: she told my bestie she was fat. This was just telling the truth to the person: but my bestie didn't see it like that. My bestie didn't even ask for an opinion. This person can really lay it on thick. I don't hate or dislike the person: in fact, I get on very well with her and chat with her on the phone regularly. Still, she can be brutal with the truth.
Well, that's actually just rude if nobody even asked.
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Jun 9, 2022 3:53:04 GMT -5
It IS rude, heatherly. But there isn't much I can do. Still, I don't join in with any nasty comments: I don't like to b*tch behind anyone's back. I'll listen to people's "opinions" but won't join in.
Good or bad, unsolicited advice and/or opinion is rude.
Have to disagree. Good unsolicited opinions can really make people's day. I have a friend that does that. It's nice hanging with her, as after she has cheered me up, she starts on strangers. It is nice to see them suddenly smile.
Good or bad, unsolicited advice and/or opinion is rude.
Have to disagree. Good unsolicited opinions can really make people's day. I have a friend that does that. It's nice hanging with her, as after she has cheered me up, she starts on strangers. It is nice to see them suddenly smile.
I think it does depend on how you put things though. I say this because I can often be so "deadpan" with comments that they are taken the wrong way. I have to be careful
Have to disagree. Good unsolicited opinions can really make people's day. I have a friend that does that. It's nice hanging with her, as after she has cheered me up, she starts on strangers. It is nice to see them suddenly smile.
I think it does depend on how you put things though. I say this because I can often be so "deadpan" with comments that they are taken the wrong way. I have to be careful
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