Post by Popcorn&Candy on Dec 16, 2021 14:18:26 GMT -5
I have this good friend: and she is wonderful. BUT she has a drinking problem. I know her family and they won't accept it or deal well with it. Although her family have tried. Her drinking is done in secret, but her family realize this. So it isn't much of a secret to them: or me. It is difficult to ignore when someone has downed a whole bottle of wine in one evening: virtually every night of the week. Maybe even more. And it is not social drinking: it is drinking done in secret.
It is upsetting to me, too: I don't drink and never will. But seeing my friend suffer is brutal. Why does she do it to herself? How do you encourage her family to discuss the issue with her? I know her family have had trouble in the past with alcoholism. Because that is what she has: alcoholism.
Seeing your friend waste away like that is terrible and deeply upsetting. I know she talks to me, but it is talking to her family that matters.
Alcoholism is an illness and it needs expert handling. Sadly unless a person is willing to accept the have a problem and the get up there is really nothing you can do.
Also dont be an enabler.. Dont make excuses or let your friend make excuses, dont say aww but its Christmas/a birthday /a party etc.
Dont encourage them. Dont stop them facing up to their actions even if it means them getting in trouble. Dont play down their addiction. Dont let them use around you.
There are lots of other helpful tips on AA websites.
My son let an addict ( drink and drugs ) move in with him he found the guy a job and his only stipulation was you can stay as long as you work and you cant use in my house. We also welcomed him at our house as a friend. This kindness motivated him to go to rehab get clean and move back to his home town where he carried on working and remained clean. He said it was the kindness and being trated like a real person that helped him see his way through.
Also dont be an enabler.. Dont make excuses or let your friend make excuses, dont say aww but its Christmas/a birthday /a party etc.
Dont encourage them. Dont stop them facing up to their actions even if it means them getting in trouble. Dont play down their addiction. Dont let them use around you.
There are lots of other helpful tips on AA websites.
My son let an addict ( drink and drugs ) move in with him he found the guy a job and his only stipulation was you can stay as long as you work and you cant use in my house. We also welcomed him at our house as a friend. This kindness motivated him to go to rehab get clean and move back to his home town where he carried on working and remained clean. He said it was the kindness and being trated like a real person that helped him see his way through.
Also dont be an enabler.. Dont make excuses or let your friend make excuses, dont say aww but its Christmas/a birthday /a party etc.
Dont encourage them. Dont stop them facing up to their actions even if it means them getting in trouble. Dont play down their addiction. Dont let them use around you.
There are lots of other helpful tips on AA websites.
My son let an addict ( drink and drugs ) move in with him he found the guy a job and his only stipulation was you can stay as long as you work and you cant use in my house. We also welcomed him at our house as a friend. This kindness motivated him to go to rehab get clean and move back to his home town where he carried on working and remained clean. He said it was the kindness and being trated like a real person that helped him see his way through.
You must feel very proud of him over that.
Absolutly. The man has now passed away (cancer) but he was 'úncle' to my grandchildren , he reconnected with his family and far from being alone when he died he was loved and honoured and as was his last wish his ashes were spread by two bikers doing a 'ton up' on a nearby motorway...
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Dec 17, 2021 16:30:36 GMT -5
I am serious about considering contacting Al-Anon: it is a suggestion that simply did not occur to me. And you are all correct: I must not make excuses and partake in the drinking. I know now, too, Al-Anon will be able to help with my friend and also help me in the process.
Your story, cassie, is wonderful: for a person to face their addiction and have such a loving family connection. Your son must be very proud of himself: he saved someone. That raises hope for everyone: not just for me or my friend.
I had a drink problem, well I guess I still do but it is under control now. I didn't do AA but was instead referred by the NHS to a service run by my local borough. It helped me hugely to talk to people in the group regularly. I haven't been drunk in almost 3 years now.
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Mar 4, 2022 3:03:16 GMT -5
My friend has had her "secret" exposed. Plus, it's difficult to ignore someone when they're staggering around. Her family know about her drinking problem [as I've already said] but don't directly talk about it with her.
I know life has been tough for her, but drinking is not the solution. But - hey - she won't drink when driving [she isn't stupid] and has cut down. I know she'll be alright. In fact, she has mentioned seeing a counsellor. I think counselling would greatly benefit her.
My friend has had her "secret" exposed. Plus, it's difficult to ignore someone when they're staggering around. Her family know about her drinking problem [as I've already said] but don't directly talk about it with her.
I know life has been tough for her, but drinking is not the solution. But - hey - she won't drink when driving [she isn't stupid] and has cut down. I know she'll be alright. In fact, she has mentioned seeing a counsellor. I think counselling would greatly benefit her.
It's good that she has cut down but it does sound like she could do with some help from a counsellor or like the group I went to. Maybe she should speak to her GP if she hasn't already. Really wish her the best.
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Mar 6, 2022 7:20:19 GMT -5
Years ago, I tried drinking myself. I got blind drunk - with my dad in his house - and staggered around. Once I became sober, I felt deep regret and like sh*t. I also had two glasses of red wine at a dinner: the room started spinning. I think people noticed but didn't say anything.
After those two incidences I never drank again. I just can't do it. Walking around drunk is AWFUL. I felt sick and I hated it. I simply am not an alcoholic: I know this in my soul.
I drink some alcohol most every day, a couple glasses of white wine is typical.
I guess that makes me a functioning alcoholic.
Not necessarilly.
How big are the glasses, are they large (250ml ) ? Are you dependent on it, eithsr physically or mentally? And has it caused relationship probelms with your fanily or friends or impacted work. These are all questions you have to ask yourself honestly and address them if you need to.
I used to binge drink to excess that i had 'brown outs' as they call them because i would only lose memory of some of the night. I would also get home without knowing how i got there which is obviously putting myself in a really dangerous position. So I knew i had to do something about it
Hey, thanks for the concern. And no, I don't think my consumption is excessive or has adverse impact in my life, so far anyway. I do know though I have no intention to stop. But it is wise to limit one's vices. And to do that one needs to know them.
Hey, thanks for the concern. And no, I don't think my consumption is excessive or has adverse impact in my life, so far anyway. I do know though I have no intention to stop. But it is wise to limit one's vices. And to do that one needs to know them.
Overuse is classed as 14 units per week. That is two smallish sized glasses of wine per day.
More than that, and you have some level of physical damage going on.
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Mar 8, 2022 3:27:10 GMT -5
Alcohol is subjective: some like it a lot, others not so much and others not at all.
I am in the not-at-all camp. Mainly because I simply don't like its taste. Sure, I'll have the odd vodka & coke - so I don't look square and uptight - but I won't drink to the point of not being able to walk in a straight line. Alcohol can be nice - and is part of the social scene - but drinking too much isn't cool and just makes the person look out-of-control. Everyone pities the drunk person.
Alcohol is subjective: some like it a lot, others not so much and others not at all.
I am in the not-at-all camp. Mainly because I simply don't like its taste. Sure, I'll have the odd vodka & coke - so I don't look square and uptight - but I won't drink to the point of not being able to walk in a straight line. Alcohol can be nice - and is part of the social scene - but drinking too much isn't cool and just makes the person look out-of-control. Everyone pities the drunk person.
My problem with alcohol I think stems from social awkwardness. I used it as a crutch. I am definitely an introvert and I always think I needed it to relax and be comfortable in crowds. The problem is that I never knew when to slow down and take it easy, and before I knew it the damage was done.
I do like the taste of alcoholic drinks though. I actually enjoy drinking wine in particular and not to get a buzz or to get into that drunken state. So when I gave it up for a while I did miss having a glass with my dinner etc.
That said, in order to get myself into a good place and break the habit, I gave it up for a whole year. I felt great for it. I felt more energetic, I had more time for other things and just healthy in general. I now have probably 3 small drinks spread out over a week. And I have self control when I go on nights out.
I'm not giving myself a pat on the back here btw, I am just sharing my experience and hopefully if anyone else is feeling that way about alcohol too then there is ways of tackling it without giving it up completely
I'm not sure I could be a non-drinker. (Beer though makes me feel bloated so I don't indulge, I'm not particularly attracted to its taste either.) I do think wine complements food better than soda or water alone.
I also try to keep my wits about me when I drink. I've had my share of regrets when I let a bottle of wine become just another party accessory. Definitely better to keep my hand on my purse than my bottle.
I'm not giving myself a pat on the back here btw, I am just sharing my experience and hopefully if anyone else is feeling that way about alcohol too then there is ways of tackling it without giving it up completely
What's wrong with patting yourself on the back? It can be hard to stop like you did and then be able to start back up with much more control. Well done!
Does this mean you have worked on your social anxiety in healthier ways to make it easier to keep the drinking at bay?
No I haven't really worked on my social anxiety. I just accept it is how I am and I don't put as much pressure on myself to be something I'm not.
Acceptance does seem to help take some of the power away from the anxiety. I learned to treat it like a misguided friend who is just trying to protect me.. lol it makes it so I don't freak out and turn it into more than it is.
No I haven't really worked on my social anxiety. I just accept it is how I am and I don't put as much pressure on myself to be something I'm not.
Acceptance does seem to help take some of the power away from the anxiety. I learned to treat it like a misguided friend who is just trying to protect me.. lol it makes it so I don't freak out and turn it into more than it is.
I think we all have social anxiety, to some degree, just some of us learn to cope better than others.
My mum was so good socially, and my dad could talk to anyone. Can I really be lacking both of their social genes? Maybe the stork dropped me off at the wrong house......
Alcohol is subjective: some like it a lot, others not so much and others not at all.
I am in the not-at-all camp. Mainly because I simply don't like its taste. Sure, I'll have the odd vodka & coke - so I don't look square and uptight - but I won't drink to the point of not being able to walk in a straight line. Alcohol can be nice - and is part of the social scene - but drinking too much isn't cool and just makes the person look out-of-control. Everyone pities the drunk person.
My problem with alcohol I think stems from social awkwardness. I used it as a crutch. I am definitely an introvert and I always think I needed it to relax and be comfortable in crowds. The problem is that I never knew when to slow down and take it easy, and before I knew it the damage was done.
I do like the taste of alcoholic drinks though. I actually enjoy drinking wine in particular and not to get a buzz or to get into that drunken state. So when I gave it up for a while I did miss having a glass with my dinner etc.
That said, in order to get myself into a good place and break the habit, I gave it up for a whole year. I felt great for it. I felt more energetic, I had more time for other things and just healthy in general. I now have probably 3 small drinks spread out over a week. And I have self control when I go on nights out.
I'm not giving myself a pat on the back here btw, I am just sharing my experience and hopefully if anyone else is feeling that way about alcohol too then there is ways of tackling it without giving it up completely
Alcohol is part of life and the social scene. It is an industry worth trillions worldwide.
Again alcohol is nice - but as with everything else - it's all about moderation. Still, I have no issues with others drinking.
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