I find that it takes me a long time to be close friends with anyone but do have both male and female friends in the looser sense. A lot of my interests are too disjointed for any individual person to take in so I am often persuing my intersts alone.
I suspect I am not the only person who has suddenly become curious.
Amusingly tomatillos may be a good example. No-one else seems really interested in them, sticking with fairly ordinary things but they are useful and do grow well. A lot of things I do or look into are similar. Perhaps ordinary elsewhere but just don't interest anyone I know. My mind often seems to be on a completely different tack to others. It was like yesterday with our art group meeting. After drawing a, fairly ordinary, page full of pigs last week yesterday I decided to draw some electronic parts, with the aid of a magnifying glass to see them better. I cannot imagine anyone else there ever doing that, although one member sometimes draws mechanical things like locks etc, but I did find it a refreshing change. I love diversity!
Amusingly tomatillos may be a good example. No-one else seems really interested in them, sticking with fairly ordinary things but they are useful and do grow well. A lot of things I do or look into are similar. Perhaps ordinary elsewhere but just don't interest anyone I know. My mind often seems to be on a completely different tack to others. It was like yesterday with our art group meeting. After drawing a, fairly ordinary, page full of pigs last week yesterday I decided to draw some electronic parts, with the aid of a magnifying glass to see them better. I cannot imagine anyone else there ever doing that, although one member sometimes draws mechanical things like locks etc, but I did find it a refreshing change. I love diversity!
Maybe coz I have nil artistic talent, I love seeing others work.
Amusingly tomatillos may be a good example. No-one else seems really interested in them, sticking with fairly ordinary things but they are useful and do grow well. A lot of things I do or look into are similar. Perhaps ordinary elsewhere but just don't interest anyone I know. My mind often seems to be on a completely different tack to others. It was like yesterday with our art group meeting. After drawing a, fairly ordinary, page full of pigs last week yesterday I decided to draw some electronic parts, with the aid of a magnifying glass to see them better. I cannot imagine anyone else there ever doing that, although one member sometimes draws mechanical things like locks etc, but I did find it a refreshing change. I love diversity!
Maybe coz I have nil artistic talent, I love seeing others work.
hint, hint
HaHa - Hint taken. Shown are my work from the last three weeks. The first being more general then last week I drew pigs from a book then yesterday the electronic bits. These are electronic valves (tubes). I have been fascinated by these and the fact that you can receive radio from the other side of the world just with wiring and a few modified electric light bulbs ever since I was little and listened to what was even then an obsolete radio at home. It is perhaps true to a good extent that they influenced my future career and I still love to see them glowing even now. Just to add, all the sketches are in ink.
Maybe coz I have nil artistic talent, I love seeing others work.
hint, hint
HaHa - Hint taken. Shown are my work from the last three weeks. The first being more general then last week I drew pigs from a book then yesterday the electronic bits. These are electronic valves (tubes). I have been fascinated by these and the fact that you can receive radio from the other side of the world just with wiring and a few modified electric light bulbs ever since I was little and listened to what was even then an obsolete radio at home. It is perhaps true to a good extent that they influenced my future career and I still love to see them glowing even now. Just to add, all the sketches are in ink.
HaHa - Hint taken. Shown are my work from the last three weeks. The first being more general then last week I drew pigs from a book then yesterday the electronic bits. These are electronic valves (tubes). I have been fascinated by these and the fact that you can receive radio from the other side of the world just with wiring and a few modified electric light bulbs ever since I was little and listened to what was even then an obsolete radio at home. It is perhaps true to a good extent that they influenced my future career and I still love to see them glowing even now. Just to add, all the sketches are in ink.
We had one of those old radios when I was kid. If you looked in the back you could see them all lit up.
Thank you
Yes, that's how it all started. I wondered how the radio worked and looked in the back and saw the lights.
My oldest brother was a typical boffin, and I remember him once telling me off for playing the radio too loud. I turned it back up after he left.
So he removed the fuse from the plug.
Funny thing was that after he left I plugged it in, and it lit up, but was silent. He said that couldn't happen. I have no idea what or why. I was just disappointed to lose my music.
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Aug 13, 2021 4:16:19 GMT -5
I am rather good at art myself: I loved drawing and using coloured pencils as a kid and teenager. I also love crayons. In fact, I designed a book cover using crayons: the book looks awesome!
I do wonder if there are adult crayons. I write this because crayons are a great medium and are quirky. I am not so good with watercolour. BUT I love arcylic paints. I also am good at using charcoal as a medium.
I use my artistic side in my short stories and poetry, too: I love paints and colours and all that jazz. Perhaps that is why I love my poem "Paint Me The Colours Of The Rainbow" so much.
I am rather good at art myself: I loved drawing and using coloured pencils as a kid and teenager. I also love crayons. In fact, I designed a book cover using crayons: the book looks awesome!
I do wonder if there are adult crayons. I write this because crayons are a great medium and are quirky. I am not so good with watercolour. BUT I love arcylic paints. I also am good at using charcoal as a medium.
I use my artistic side in my short stories and poetry, too: I love paints and colours and all that jazz. Perhaps that is why I love my poem "Paint Me The Colours Of The Rainbow" so much.
There are many many different makes and types of adult crayons. I sometimes use 'Inktense' pencils and there are also paint versions of these too. They are similar to watercolour pencils which can be mixed with water to give a watercolour paint effect but are die based to fixed when dry. I experiment by using them with acrylics. See Derwent - www.derwentart.com/en-gb
It's worth looking at some of the bigger art suppliers too.
Yes, that's how it all started. I wondered how the radio worked and looked in the back and saw the lights.
My oldest brother was a typical boffin, and I remember him once telling me off for playing the radio too loud. I turned it back up after he left.
So he removed the fuse from the plug.
Funny thing was that after he left I plugged it in, and it lit up, but was silent. He said that couldn't happen. I have no idea what or why. I was just disappointed to lose my music.
It's all in the past now but the only thing that I can think of is that the mains was connected the wrong way round, either in the plug or the mains socket (which does happen). The fuse is only in what should be the live connection. In that way the radio is still live and a return path for the mains was still present somewhere. It can happen with a type of set which was AC or DC powered and is a pretty dangerous condition as the metal chassis is live insted of at neutral (nominally zero) potential. These days safety regulations are very much more stringent and it should not happen even with reversed mains. Modern sets are never made the same way. The modern house fuse trips will give more protection as well. A point to remember with old valve radios.
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My oldest brother was a typical boffin, and I remember him once telling me off for playing the radio too loud. I turned it back up after he left.
So he removed the fuse from the plug.
Funny thing was that after he left I plugged it in, and it lit up, but was silent. He said that couldn't happen. I have no idea what or why. I was just disappointed to lose my music.
It's all in the past now but the only thing that I can think of is that the mains was connected the wrong way round, either in the plug or the mains socket (which does happen). The fuse is only in what should be the live connection. In that way the radio is still live and a return path for the mains was still present somewhere. It can happen with a type of set which was AC or DC powered and is a pretty dangerous condition as the metal chassis is live insted of at neutral (nominally zero) potential. These days safety regulations are very much more stringent and it should not happen even with reversed mains. Modern sets are never made the same way. The modern house fuse trips will give more protection as well. A point to remember with old valve radios.
That sounds likely.
I remember when we did physics, we were shown how to wire a plug, and why. I got curious and as there was no-one home when I got there, I opened all the plugs. Most o them were not properly tight, and some were so loose the wire was just sitting there, and singing the plastic due to arcing.
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Hey Totally get it, I’m an ambivert with (what I have only just discovered) social anxiety so I tend to avoid intentional social interactions unless it is as a result of a gathering / activity for my daughter. I feel quite friendless and lonely the majority of my waking hours!! I’m friendly and most people would probably think I was confident, kind and well-meaning (from what I have heard from others, if they happened to mention how they view me). On the inside I have a MASSIVE fear of being misunderstood, overstepping boundaries, being too bold/in-ya-face, misreading social situations and think im a totally unworthy idiot. I think it stems from some comments that past partners and my husband have made to me about things I have done/said. I am very accepting and accommodating of others and would never pull them up on it. I have 2 very good female friends and many other friends who I’m sure think the world of me because they’re those kind of people (I think the world of them!) but so many times a day I feel I can’t trust my judgement about these relationships I have with them, am second guessing things I say to them in txts, and things I say to other associates / acquaintances who I interact with regularly. None of these people have EVER said or done anything to make me believe that these relationships and any of our interactions are anything other than the largely pleasant experiences they usually are at the time, yet afterwards I ruminate massively and during exchanges I’m often doubting what I’m saying or doing is right/ok. It’s very tiring. Kinda over it. The only person I want to hang out with is my 2yr old daughter because I don’t feel judged, nor do I end up belittling myself constantly afterwards when I go over what has been said or done. Only sometimes sit there thinking maybe I should be a better mum or should have done something differently after we have been out for the day or whatever. Definitely not as bad with regard to her tho. Very bad rumination and self doubt with adult interactions tho. Sorry for the novel! Hoping to connect with some other ladies who might understand on here so we can talk it out and hopefully let go of some of this anxiety. Something I don’t feel like I can do with anyone I know (they’re all too busy with their own lives, don’t want to burden them with my heavy BS!!) xx
Hey Totally get it, I’m an ambivert with (what I have only just discovered) social anxiety so I tend to avoid intentional social interactions unless it is as a result of a gathering / activity for my daughter. I feel quite friendless and lonely the majority of my waking hours!! I’m friendly and most people would probably think I was confident, kind and well-meaning (from what I have heard from others, if they happened to mention how they view me). On the inside I have a MASSIVE fear of being misunderstood, overstepping boundaries, being too bold/in-ya-face, misreading social situations and think im a totally unworthy idiot. I think it stems from some comments that past partners and my husband have made to me about things I have done/said. I am very accepting and accommodating of others and would never pull them up on it. I have 2 very good female friends and many other friends who I’m sure think the world of me because they’re those kind of people (I think the world of them!) but so many times a day I feel I can’t trust my judgement about these relationships I have with them, am second guessing things I say to them in txts, and things I say to other associates / acquaintances who I interact with regularly. None of these people have EVER said or done anything to make me believe that these relationships and any of our interactions are anything other than the largely pleasant experiences they usually are at the time, yet afterwards I ruminate massively and during exchanges I’m often doubting what I’m saying or doing is right/ok. It’s very tiring. Kinda over it. The only person I want to hang out with is my 2yr old daughter because I don’t feel judged, nor do I end up belittling myself constantly afterwards when I go over what has been said or done. Only sometimes sit there thinking maybe I should be a better mum or should have done something differently after we have been out for the day or whatever. Definitely not as bad with regard to her tho. Very bad rumination and self doubt with adult interactions tho. Sorry for the novel! Hoping to connect with some other ladies who might understand on here so we can talk it out and hopefully let go of some of this anxiety. Something I don’t feel like I can do with anyone I know (they’re all too busy with their own lives, don’t want to burden them with my heavy BS!!) xx
I have felt like that many times. It has gotten better over time for me after working on my anxiety and depression overall.
BTW, no need to apologize for lengthy posts and for expressing yourself!
P.S. Sorry it took a bit to accept your registration, but you are in now koko80!
Post by TestDummyCO on Sept 20, 2021 17:42:12 GMT -5
koko80, I'm glad you were able to get a diagnosis. I can understand your feeling judged all the time. My mother was quite judgmental, and my ex took offense to pretty much anything I said. Its tiring to walk on eggshells around those with whom you are close.
I'm joining the conversation a bit late, as the thread was started "before my time." Like others here, I'm friendly, but keep to myself a lot. I don't mind social situations, but I dislike crowds. You will never see me out and about Thanksgiving weekend, unless it's to ring a bell for donations...and then, it's for only an hour. I'm an only child, and I found my mother exasperating, so I pretty much had to entertain myself. I got along with my father much better.
I was born an Army Brat and had to move every couple of years. Eventually, I stopped crying myself to sleep whenever we moved...new school, new friends, etc. Outside my family, husbands included, my relationships were superficial at best. Once we settled here, I did manage to have two good, long-time, girlfriends. Both friendships had run their course during and soon after my divorce. One had started a family and the other just became a flake. That was the loneliest period in my life! I joined a couple of social groups, where I was thrust in the limelight. After years of being a wallflower, I found it stressful. The friendships developed in one of those groups also fizzled. I still meet with some of the members of the other group, but the meetups are few and far between.
I have always gotten along better with boys/men, and that is a problem in and of itself. I got shamed, even by my own mother, for having male friends. She made it sound like I was whoring around! So, I tend to be very careful, because I don't want to raise eyebrows. I also work in a male-dominated field.
I find this way of communicating easier, as there's no backspace key IRL. I get to organize my thoughts better before hitting "Enter." Unfortunately, I sometimes need to edit even short posts several times afterward! I can also finish my thoughts without being rudely interrupted. If somebody has no interest in what I have to say, they can either block or ignore me, and I would be none the wiser.
Welcome to the forum, koko80. I look forward reading your thoughts.
koko80 "Hey Totally get it, I’m an ambivert with (what I have only just discovered) social anxiety so I tend to avoid intentional social interactions unless it is as a result of a gathering / activity for my daughter. I feel quite friendless and lonely the majority of my waking hours!! I’m friendly and most people would probably think I was confident, kind and well-meaning (from what I have heard from others, if they happened to mention how they view me). On the inside I have a MASSIVE fear of being misunderstood, overstepping boundaries, being too bold/in-ya-face, misreading social situations and think im a totally unworthy idiot. I think it stems from"
Sounds like a normal day for me. I just don't like people anymore.
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I have people around me who like me and support me but I never have anyone that I can confine in or pour my heart out to. I kind of get used to it. I am fine on my own.
I have people around me who like me and support me but I never have anyone that I can confine in or pour my heart out to. I kind of get used to it. I am fine on my own.
Oh look, there's me. ^^
But I do act as confidante to others, so I know it is my failing, in not trusting others with my heart.
....and this is why forums are so good.
Last Edit: Sept 21, 2021 1:12:36 GMT -5 by a_muppet
I have people around me who like me and support me but I never have anyone that I can confine in or pour my heart out to. I kind of get used to it. I am fine on my own.
I have people around me who like me and support me but I never have anyone that I can confine in or pour my heart out to. I kind of get used to it. I am fine on my own.
I have people around me who like me and support me but I never have anyone that I can confine in or pour my heart out to. I kind of get used to it. I am fine on my own.
Oh look, there's me. ^^
But I do act as confidante to others, so I know it is my failing, in not trusting others with my heart.
....and this is why forums are so good.
That's true, from the beginning, Karen, you, Heather, Jessica, Melanie and Jen (where are they?)?
i've had anxiety as long as i can recall and never felt accepted even within my own family. they didn't encourage self-esteem and i perpetuated that with a few relationships in early adulthood and didn't begin to really develop any until age 28 when i suddenly divorced my ex. i had started to venture outside of the situation that kept me "kept" and began to realize i am actually pretty awesome and people do like me. now that i know that, i've started practicing being more discerning with who i spend my energy on. it's difficult because I'm still healing from all the things i experienced and I'm naturally a very accepting person so i tolerate a lot before i simply snap and decide I'm done with a person and bounce out of their life. more and more i've practiced communicating my boundaries and needs prior to give a fair chance. that's a BIG thing in having satisfying friendships. i've even stopped ghosting in the past couple of years, instead explaining why I'm ending contact in a calm manner.
i love my own company and can keep myself entertained indefinitely but it's definitely lonely at times because it's so nice to commiserate and feel understood so i still am trudging along in my quest for closer friendships, hence my recent joining of this forum. i want people i just click with, you know? like others have mentioned i think it's easiest to identify something you find pleasurable and then find others who like the same and go from there. or even something like an illness you have in common, idk, but something that is a decent part of your life so it's easier to keep relevant to your regular life. years ago i tried meetup groups and bumble friends but would end up getting busy with work and life and didn't really click enough with the people to keep things going but it was good experience. i, too, find it particularly difficult to make female friends probably due to a mother wound that i need to unpack a little bit more.
i have a few people i could consider true friends but through the pandemic everyone seems to have withdrawn more when usually I'm the busy introverted one of the friendship. i know everyone in the world is going through stuff right now so I'm extra patient but IM GOING THROUGH STUFF TOO. and there are soooooo many people in the world you're bound to find others you relate with and there's no shame in finding such electronically. even just as practice to finding someone irl.
in relationships someone has to be the first to be vulnerable and that can be scary. i think you'd be surprised how much of the "little stuff" good or bad you have in common with people but we're all programmed not to talk about it. as humans we all have the same basic needs and desires and sometimes you have to boil your commonality to the basics rather than specifics to understand people better. i figure that I'm safe to discuss things because i've been alone all my life and i can be alone again if I'm rejected or disappointed.
butterstix love your post, love that you have found your own way.
But when it comes to being alone I am alone but not lonely. The only time I feel lonely is when I'm in a group the ease the other people seem to cheer each other along and have this bon ami eludes me and that's when I feel isolated. So in my case it's alone but definitely not lonely.
i've had anxiety as long as i can recall and never felt accepted even within my own family. they didn't encourage self-esteem and i perpetuated that with a few relationships in early adulthood and didn't begin to really develop any until age 28 when i suddenly divorced my ex. i had started to venture outside of the situation that kept me "kept" and began to realize i am actually pretty awesome and people do like me. now that i know that, i've started practicing being more discerning with who i spend my energy on. it's difficult because I'm still healing from all the things i experienced and I'm naturally a very accepting person so i tolerate a lot before i simply snap and decide I'm done with a person and bounce out of their life. more and more i've practiced communicating my boundaries and needs prior to give a fair chance. that's a BIG thing in having satisfying friendships. i've even stopped ghosting in the past couple of years, instead explaining why I'm ending contact in a calm manner.
i love my own company and can keep myself entertained indefinitely but it's definitely lonely at times because it's so nice to commiserate and feel understood so i still am trudging along in my quest for closer friendships, hence my recent joining of this forum. i want people i just click with, you know? like others have mentioned i think it's easiest to identify something you find pleasurable and then find others who like the same and go from there. or even something like an illness you have in common, idk, but something that is a decent part of your life so it's easier to keep relevant to your regular life. years ago i tried meetup groups and bumble friends but would end up getting busy with work and life and didn't really click enough with the people to keep things going but it was good experience. i, too, find it particularly difficult to make female friends probably due to a mother wound that i need to unpack a little bit more.
i have a few people i could consider true friends but through the pandemic everyone seems to have withdrawn more when usually I'm the busy introverted one of the friendship. i know everyone in the world is going through stuff right now so I'm extra patient but IM GOING THROUGH STUFF TOO. and there are soooooo many people in the world you're bound to find others you relate with and there's no shame in finding such electronically. even just as practice to finding someone irl.
in relationships someone has to be the first to be vulnerable and that can be scary. i think you'd be surprised how much of the "little stuff" good or bad you have in common with people but we're all programmed not to talk about it. as humans we all have the same basic needs and desires and sometimes you have to boil your commonality to the basics rather than specifics to understand people better. i figure that I'm safe to discuss things because i've been alone all my life and i can be alone again if I'm rejected or disappointed.
hey, at least we are all lonely together here.
Glad you found us then! I think we all can relate even if it's for different reasons. However, we don't have to be truly lonely, as we all have each other. We're here for you whenever you need us, and you can just be yourself!
I always felt like nobody liked me because of how people always treated me... but then you get older and you start caring a little less, and then you realize those people were wrong and were just mean. Some people just want to bring you down or try to dull your light...
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i've had anxiety as long as i can recall and never felt accepted even within my own family. they didn't encourage self-esteem and i perpetuated that with a few relationships in early adulthood and didn't begin to really develop any until age 28 when i suddenly divorced my ex. i had started to venture outside of the situation that kept me "kept" and began to realize i am actually pretty awesome and people do like me. now that i know that, i've started practicing being more discerning with who i spend my energy on. it's difficult because I'm still healing from all the things i experienced and I'm naturally a very accepting person so i tolerate a lot before i simply snap and decide I'm done with a person and bounce out of their life. more and more i've practiced communicating my boundaries and needs prior to give a fair chance. that's a BIG thing in having satisfying friendships. i've even stopped ghosting in the past couple of years, instead explaining why I'm ending contact in a calm manner.
i love my own company and can keep myself entertained indefinitely but it's definitely lonely at times because it's so nice to commiserate and feel understood so i still am trudging along in my quest for closer friendships, hence my recent joining of this forum. i want people i just click with, you know? like others have mentioned i think it's easiest to identify something you find pleasurable and then find others who like the same and go from there. or even something like an illness you have in common, idk, but something that is a decent part of your life so it's easier to keep relevant to your regular life. years ago i tried meetup groups and bumble friends but would end up getting busy with work and life and didn't really click enough with the people to keep things going but it was good experience. i, too, find it particularly difficult to make female friends probably due to a mother wound that i need to unpack a little bit more.
i have a few people i could consider true friends but through the pandemic everyone seems to have withdrawn more when usually I'm the busy introverted one of the friendship. i know everyone in the world is going through stuff right now so I'm extra patient but IM GOING THROUGH STUFF TOO. and there are soooooo many people in the world you're bound to find others you relate with and there's no shame in finding such electronically. even just as practice to finding someone irl.
in relationships someone has to be the first to be vulnerable and that can be scary. i think you'd be surprised how much of the "little stuff" good or bad you have in common with people but we're all programmed not to talk about it. as humans we all have the same basic needs and desires and sometimes you have to boil your commonality to the basics rather than specifics to understand people better. i figure that I'm safe to discuss things because i've been alone all my life and i can be alone again if I'm rejected or disappointed.
hey, at least we are all lonely together here.
Cassie is right, the loneliest is when you are with the a group of people that you feel excluded and have nothing in common with them.
a_muppet: Ha, I just spotted you, Noeleena - sneaking in. ::Sgc7Hl4::
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