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All Things Career & Education Nov 3, 2021 10:47:47 GMT -5

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Hello Rebecca.

Editing your work is as important as the final production: I've learnt that the hard way. Read and re-read your work: even get someone else to read it and see any errors. Because once it's in print, it'll be impossible to change. You don't want embarrassing mistakes in your work.

But that's the way the world is, James: if you don't look like you deserve that desk, you're not going to get that desk.

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Nov 3, 2021 10:47:47 GMT -5 Popcorn&Candy said:

Hello Rebecca.

Editing your work is as important as the final production: I've learnt that the hard way. Read and re-read your work: even get someone else to read it and see any errors. Because once it's in print, it'll be impossible to change. You don't want embarrassing mistakes in your work.

I agree. One thing I have learnt from past writing is that if an error slips by and I then notice it the only thing I see in the future is the error

Popcorn&Candy Elite Member II Posts: 5,989	All Things Career & Education Nov 9, 2021 9:44:39 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Popcorn&Candy on Nov 9, 2021 9:44:39 GMT -5 How's everyone's writing going?
	But that's the way the world is, James: if you don't look like you deserve that desk, you're not going to get that desk.

jen Elite Member III Posts: 6,184	All Things Career & Education Nov 10, 2021 4:01:12 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jen on Nov 10, 2021 4:01:12 GMT -5 My first is in. I am pondering on another but inspiration isn't coming :/

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Nov 11, 2021 9:01:26 GMT -5 kjay said:

Nov 9, 2021 9:44:39 GMT -5 Popcorn&Candy said:

How's everyone's writing going?

Not so great. I have tried a few times with no results.

Need a writing prompt?

Like... fuzzy slippers, pine trees, and robots. And... go!

Popcorn&Candy Elite Member II Posts: 5,989	All Things Career & Education Apr 14, 2022 8:22:19 GMT -5 heatherly, alsr, and 2 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Popcorn&Candy on Apr 14, 2022 8:22:19 GMT -5 I've been continuing with my online English course. I am getting there: slowly but surely.
	But that's the way the world is, James: if you don't look like you deserve that desk, you're not going to get that desk.

Popcorn&Candy Elite Member II Posts: 5,989	All Things Career & Education May 4, 2022 9:34:59 GMT -5 heatherly, kjay, and 1 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Popcorn&Candy on May 4, 2022 9:34:59 GMT -5 I've only got one module to go and then it is revision time! Wish me luck!
	But that's the way the world is, James: if you don't look like you deserve that desk, you're not going to get that desk.

kjay Moderator Posts: 15,705	All Things Career & Education May 4, 2022 16:41:18 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by kjay on May 4, 2022 16:41:18 GMT -5 May 4, 2022 9:34:59 GMT -5 Popcorn&Candy said: I've only got one module to go and then it is revision time! Wish me luck! Good luck Candy. I'm sure you will do well.
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jen Elite Member III Posts: 6,184	All Things Career & Education May 5, 2022 2:33:03 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jen on May 5, 2022 2:33:03 GMT -5 May 4, 2022 9:34:59 GMT -5 Popcorn&Candy said: I've only got one module to go and then it is revision time! Wish me luck! Good luck Candy

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	But that's the way the world is, James: if you don't look like you deserve that desk, you're not going to get that desk.

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Aug 24, 2022 12:11:49 GMT -5 heatherly said:

time.com/6208115/quiet-quitting-companies-response/

Really odd to consider it like quitting when doing the work you were hired for and nothing more? lol

Yes, I read something very similar earlier of another newsfeed. I do wonder if the current hassles on top of the covid thing have just drained everyone mentally such that they have had enough.

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Aug 25, 2022 4:09:03 GMT -5 jen said:

I do wonder if the current hassles on top of the covid thing have just drained everyone mentally such that they have had enough.

I think COVID-19 has drained attitudes about work and life goals. People are exploring different avenues of work now: they no longer are prepared to do work that gets them nowhere.

People want their life dreams to come true.

But that's the way the world is, James: if you don't look like you deserve that desk, you're not going to get that desk.

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Aug 24, 2022 12:11:49 GMT -5 heatherly said:

time.com/6208115/quiet-quitting-companies-response/

Really odd to consider it like quitting when doing the work you were hired for and nothing more? lol

That sounds like a good way to make the day drag on forever. imo Getting involved is what makes any job worthwhile. If it isn't worthwhile, find one that is.

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All Things Career & Education Dec 9, 2022 9:33:19 GMT -5 jen likes this

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The computerized phone is an advancement. But this advancement has made basic education more important than ever. I think it is high time for elementary schools to reprint 1900 versions of English grammar, science and arithmetic textbooks. Leave the computers at home.

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All Things Career & Education Dec 10, 2022 7:26:48 GMT -5

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Dec 9, 2022 9:33:19 GMT -5 priscillams said:

The computerized phone is an advancement. But this advancement has made basic education more important than ever. I think it is high time for elementary schools to reprint 1900 versions of English grammar, science and arithmetic textbooks. Leave the computers at home.

I cannot see that happening but maybe one technology free day a week in all schools would broaden their understanding and skills?

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All Things Career & Education Dec 12, 2022 9:07:21 GMT -5

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Dec 10, 2022 14:50:50 GMT -5 priscillams said:

I haven't thought it through, but I think technology will reach a point where the majority will be near illiterate.

This makes me think of Grammarly.

Is it right that Grammarly fixes writing mistakes? Of course it is important and necessary for everyone who needs professional text but is it cheating? Shouldn't a term paper be based on the student's own writing, rather than one corrected by Grammarly? I do also wonder if teachers allow their students to use Grammarly. Because Grammarly can't change poor writing skills. Or shouldn't for a fair assessment at exam time and essays.

But that's the way the world is, James: if you don't look like you deserve that desk, you're not going to get that desk.

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All Things Career & Education Dec 12, 2022 13:05:45 GMT -5

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Dec 9, 2022 9:33:19 GMT -5 priscillams said:

The computerized phone is an advancement. But this advancement has made basic education more important than ever. I think it is high time for elementary schools to reprint 1900 versions of English grammar, science and arithmetic textbooks. Leave the computers at home.

Time to return to the horse and cart maybe?

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Dec 10, 2022 7:26:48 GMT -5 jen said:

Dec 9, 2022 9:33:19 GMT -5 priscillams said:

The computerized phone is an advancement. But this advancement has made basic education more important than ever. I think it is high time for elementary schools to reprint 1900 versions of English grammar, science and arithmetic textbooks. Leave the computers at home.

I cannot see that happening but maybe one technology free day a week in all schools would broaden their understanding and skills?

That is different. There is something to be said for technology free days, but it should be relevant to today, not a return to out of date knowledge.

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Dec 10, 2022 14:50:50 GMT -5 priscillams said:

I haven't thought it through, but I think technology will reach a point where the majority will be near illiterate.

Reminds me of H.G.Wells' "The Time Machine".

Illiterate?

Are you unfamiliar with the internet, and what a massive effect it is on all our lives?

How could you keep up without being literate. Being unable to read nowadays is a bigger affliction than it ever was.

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All Things Career & Education Dec 12, 2022 13:14:16 GMT -5

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Dec 12, 2022 9:07:21 GMT -5 Popcorn&Candy said:

Dec 10, 2022 14:50:50 GMT -5 priscillams said:

I haven't thought it through, but I think technology will reach a point where the majority will be near illiterate.

This makes me think of Grammarly.

Is it right that Grammarly fixes writing mistakes? Of course it is important and necessary for everyone who needs professional text but is it cheating? Shouldn't a term paper be based on the student's own writing, rather than one corrected by Grammarly? I do also wonder if teachers allow their students to use Grammarly. Because Grammarly can't change poor writing skills. Or shouldn't for a fair assessment at exam time and essays.

Are you suggesting that making an error in your grammar in mathematics, computer science, physics, physical education, chemistry, [etc etc etc] could result in you failing the exam when your knowledge of the subject is very fulsome?

There would be an awful lot of people who need to be told not to bother wasting their time with exams.

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All Things Career & Education Dec 13, 2022 3:36:20 GMT -5

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Dec 12, 2022 13:07:50 GMT -5 a_muppet said:

Dec 10, 2022 7:26:48 GMT -5 jen said:

I cannot see that happening but maybe one technology free day a week in all schools would broaden their understanding and skills?

That is different. There is something to be said for technology free days, but it should be relevant to today, not a return to out of date knowledge.

I would have to think it through but it's more on the line of survival without technology than how to use log tables.

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Dec 12, 2022 13:14:16 GMT -5 a_muppet said:

Dec 12, 2022 9:07:21 GMT -5 Popcorn&Candy said:

This makes me think of Grammarly.

Is it right that Grammarly fixes writing mistakes? Of course it is important and necessary for everyone who needs professional text but is it cheating? Shouldn't a term paper be based on the student's own writing, rather than one corrected by Grammarly? I do also wonder if teachers allow their students to use Grammarly. Because Grammarly can't change poor writing skills. Or shouldn't for a fair assessment at exam time and essays.

Are you suggesting that making an error in your grammar in mathematics, computer science, physics, physical education, chemistry, [etc etc etc] could result in you failing the exam when your knowledge of the subject is very fulsome?

There would be an awful lot of people who need to be told not to bother wasting their time with exams.

One point I would think about in the above hightlighted text is that many failures in modern technology come from simple errors. I am not suggesting someone should fail an exam because of it but it is something which is important for thinking about. To a software engineer it is a very major point. In fact you could well fail an exam for poor logic

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Reliance on a computer to correct grammar mistakes could mean you have poor grammar. That's worth correcting I think.

(A 1900 version of an English grammar textbook or a Calculus test wouldn't require revision. A 1900 general chemistry text, maybe a little. But that would be part of the fun.)

Is it true some grade schools no longer teach penmanship or "writing" (cursive some call it) skills at all? Being able to "write" to me is part of literacy.

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Dec 12, 2022 9:07:21 GMT -5 Popcorn&Candy said:

Dec 10, 2022 14:50:50 GMT -5 priscillams said:

I haven't thought it through, but I think technology will reach a point where the majority will be near illiterate.

This makes me think of Grammarly.

Is it right that Grammarly fixes writing mistakes? Of course it is important and necessary for everyone who needs professional text but is it cheating? Shouldn't a term paper be based on the student's own writing, rather than one corrected by Grammarly? I do also wonder if teachers allow their students to use Grammarly. Because Grammarly can't change poor writing skills. Or shouldn't for a fair assessment at exam time and essays.

Grammarly only corrects the conventions. It's a proofreader tool. When teachers/assessors look at the paper, they do not only check the correct grammar, punctuations, and spelling. They want to see the structure, delivery and organisation of ideas working altogether. Grammarly doesn't provide those for the user. I used Grammarly when I was doing my post grad paper. It is widely accepted in the university. Teachers use it, why students shouldn't? Since Microsoft, we've been proofreading our texts using Office Word. Grammarly is just like that but much better.

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