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jen Rare Member Posts: 12,738	Christmas 2021 Dec 23, 2021 3:06:42 GMT -5 a_muppet and kjay like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jen on Dec 23, 2021 3:06:42 GMT -5 Dec 22, 2021 6:03:19 GMT -5 kjay said: Only three more days. I hope everyone is ready. Just about, after collecting a few things yesterday. There is only the butcher for Christmas meat tomorrow.

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Thursday is my normal shopping day and I get the shopping for the old people. Today at 7am the shops were already busy .

By 8,30 when we finished they were heaving. People always seem to think the world is going to end yet in reality the shops are shut for one day!

Popcorn&Candy Rare Member Posts: 11,371	Christmas 2021 Dec 23, 2021 5:19:24 GMT -5 kjay and jen like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Popcorn&Candy on Dec 23, 2021 5:19:24 GMT -5 Today I have to do a load of Christmas tasks with my sister. This includes shopping and wrapping presents. But it's all good!
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a_muppet Global Moderator Posts: 35,036	Christmas 2021 Dec 23, 2021 5:20:31 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by a_muppet on Dec 23, 2021 5:20:31 GMT -5 I had to look up 'Happy Festivus", and while I appreciate their pov, I wonder how many jobs would be lost if xmas was not as commercial as it is. Or even livelihoods, as many businesses do peak trading at this time of year.
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Dec 23, 2021 5:20:31 GMT -5 a_muppet said:

I had to look up 'Happy Festivus", and while I appreciate their pov, I wonder how many jobs would be lost if xmas was not as commercial as it is.

Or even livelihoods, as many businesses do peak trading at this time of year.

Theres commercial and then theres commercial. Yes everyone has to eat and why not eat a little bit nicer or special than at the rest of the year? But do we need the amount of food we are pursueded to buy?

Guess how many mince pies are wasted each year..... try 74 million... Thats disgusting especially while maybe not half a mile from our own front door someone is hungry.

www.ecoandbeyond.co/articles/christmas-food-waste/

Then there are the gifts... Do we really need the stuff we get? Another purfume /socks/shawl/ earrings/ These days I like to sit back and think abut what Im giving. I try to buy gifts that are long term useful or needed or an experience. This year I've sent my son the money for a years family ticket to the zoo so he can take the children there whenever he likes.

www.buzz.ie/lifestyle/unwanted-christmas-presents-environment-waste-25545178

Anyone who is on FB doesnt get a Christmas card from me (except mum) instead I make a nice photo like the one I shared here and publish it on FB with the message that the blank space on their shelf where my paper card would have been is instead feeding someone or saving a dog as we take th card and stamp money double it and donate it.

I understand the economy has to be kept turning but there are limits to the amount of waste and damage we can excuse in the name of Christmas

kjay Moderator Posts: 24,249	Christmas 2021 Dec 23, 2021 5:55:40 GMT -5 Rebecca Jo and jen like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by kjay on Dec 23, 2021 5:55:40 GMT -5 I'm ready for Christmas. The only thing left to do is actually prepare our meal.
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Dec 23, 2021 5:32:57 GMT -5 cassie said:

Dec 23, 2021 5:20:31 GMT -5 a_muppet said:

I had to look up 'Happy Festivus", and while I appreciate their pov, I wonder how many jobs would be lost if xmas was not as commercial as it is.

Or even livelihoods, as many businesses do peak trading at this time of year.

Theres commercial and then theres commercial. Yes everyone has to eat and why not eat a little bit nicer or special than at the rest of the year? But do we need the amount of food we are pursueded to buy?

Guess how many mince pies are wasted each year..... try 74 million... Thats disgusting especially while maybe not half a mile from our own front door someone is hungry.

www.ecoandbeyond.co/articles/christmas-food-waste/

Then there are the gifts... Do we really need the stuff we get? Another purfume /socks/shawl/ earrings/ These days I like to sit back and think abut what Im giving. I try to buy gifts that are long term useful or needed or an experience. This year I've sent my son the money for a years family ticket to the zoo so he can take the children there whenever he likes.

www.buzz.ie/lifestyle/unwanted-christmas-presents-environment-waste-25545178

Anyone who is on FB doesnt get a Christmas card from me (except mum) instead I make a nice photo like the one I shared here and publish it on FB with the message that the blank space on their shelf where my paper card would have been is instead feeding someone or saving a dog as we take th card and stamp money double it and donate it.

I understand the economy has to be kept turning but there are limits to the amount of waste and damage we can excuse in the name of Christmas

I don't altogether disagree with you. My pov was nudged in a different direction one day when I was ranting at the waste of time and space that letter box drop off leaflets were. 95% of mine don't get past me reading the top line before they go in the recycle bin.

But then I reflected on how many people got an income from that leaflet.

To name just a few

The advertiser [pizza]
the designer
the ad agency staff
the paper manufacturing staff
the lorry driver
the printer
the recycler
the ink manufacturer
the entire supplying industry of the pizza

and I am sure there are more I have not thought of.

....and how many dependents are those people supporting?

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I agree it's not something we can change on our own the economy is too wide and driven by consumerism for us to make any difference on our own.

Maybe it's time as soon to start looking at changing the way we as society behave and how society can make changes that do not impact on the individual but that benefit both commerce and the planet.

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Dec 23, 2021 11:13:38 GMT -5 cassie said:

I agree it's not something we can change on our own the economy is too wide and driven by consumerism for us to make any difference on our own.

Maybe it's time as soon to start looking at changing the way we as society behave and how society can make changes that do not impact on the individual but that benefit both commerce and the planet.

This I agree with.

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kjay Moderator Posts: 24,249	Christmas 2021 Dec 23, 2021 19:14:00 GMT -5 heatherly, a_muppet, and 3 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by kjay on Dec 23, 2021 19:14:00 GMT -5 This is our Christmas tree out on our lanai. It's nice to sit out there and listen to the sounds from the pond and the adjoining Cypress swamp. imgur.com/8GPZfDS
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alsr Elite Member III Posts: 7,921	Christmas 2021 Dec 23, 2021 22:09:45 GMT -5 heatherly and a_muppet like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by alsr on Dec 23, 2021 22:09:45 GMT -5 I will not have a Christmas tree this year, also no decorations. I am just so tired. A Christmas day lunch is all I can handle.

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Dec 23, 2021 19:14:00 GMT -5 kjay said:

This is our Christmas tree out on our lanai. It's nice to sit out there and listen to the sounds from the pond and the adjoining Cypress swamp.

imgur.com/8GPZfDS

Very nice, Karen.

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Merry Christmas to all my dear friends on this forum, I wish you and your family a wonderful holiday season and a new year full of peace, joy, health, happiness and prosperity.

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Dec 23, 2021 22:15:21 GMT -5 alsr said:

Merry Christmas to all my dear friends on this forum, I wish you and your family a wonderful holiday season and a new year full of peace, joy, health, happiness and prosperity.

Have a lovely Christmas. Take the time to relax as best you can

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Dec 23, 2021 19:14:00 GMT -5 kjay said:

This is our Christmas tree out on our lanai. It's nice to sit out there and listen to the sounds from the pond and the adjoining Cypress swamp.

imgur.com/8GPZfDS

That's a lovely tree Karen. It puts our tiny one in the shade. I have never been in a warm / hot place at Christmas to hear much so it would be a bit strange to me.

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Dec 23, 2021 22:09:45 GMT -5 alsr said:

I will not have a Christmas tree this year, also no decorations. I am just so tired. A Christmas day lunch is all I can handle.

. Next year you can make up for it Annie. I hope you have a very Merry Christmas.

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Dec 23, 2021 22:10:08 GMT -5 alsr said:

Dec 23, 2021 19:14:00 GMT -5 kjay said:

This is our Christmas tree out on our lanai. It's nice to sit out there and listen to the sounds from the pond and the adjoining Cypress swamp.

imgur.com/8GPZfDS

Very nice, Karen.

Thank you Annie

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Dec 23, 2021 19:14:00 GMT -5 kjay said:

This is our Christmas tree out on our lanai. It's nice to sit out there and listen to the sounds from the pond and the adjoining Cypress swamp.

imgur.com/8GPZfDS

Oooo that's identical to our xmas really.

apart from us huddling inside, cold, grey skies, and generally dour

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Dec 23, 2021 22:09:45 GMT -5 alsr said:

I will not have a Christmas tree this year, also no decorations. I am just so tired. A Christmas day lunch is all I can handle.

I am sure you will enjoy it though. a couple of hours of just chilling with some good food, some wine, and presents will do you a world of good.

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a_muppet Global Moderator Posts: 35,036	Christmas 2021 Dec 24, 2021 5:49:39 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by a_muppet on Dec 24, 2021 5:49:39 GMT -5 Just noticed, we are completely out of white wine? How could that happen?
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Dec 24, 2021 3:53:50 GMT -5 jen said:

Dec 23, 2021 19:14:00 GMT -5 kjay said:

This is our Christmas tree out on our lanai. It's nice to sit out there and listen to the sounds from the pond and the adjoining Cypress swamp.

imgur.com/8GPZfDS

That's a lovely tree Karen. It puts our tiny one in the shade. I have never been in a warm / hot place at Christmas to hear much so it would be a bit strange to me.

Jen, it did and still does take some getting used to. I really miss the snow that we always had for Christmas. One thing though, the people here seem to decorate their homes much more than the people up north. It helps bring that Christmas feeling up.

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kjay Moderator Posts: 24,249	Christmas 2021 Dec 24, 2021 5:52:02 GMT -5 a_muppet likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by kjay on Dec 24, 2021 5:52:02 GMT -5 Dec 24, 2021 5:49:39 GMT -5 a_muppet said: Just noticed, we are completely out of white wine? How could that happen? Ummmm.. Did you drink it?
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Dec 24, 2021 5:47:54 GMT -5 a_muppet said:

Dec 23, 2021 19:14:00 GMT -5 kjay said:

This is our Christmas tree out on our lanai. It's nice to sit out there and listen to the sounds from the pond and the adjoining Cypress swamp.

imgur.com/8GPZfDS

Oooo that's identical to our xmas really.

apart from us huddling inside, cold, grey skies, and generally dour

We have another one inside to huddle up to incase it gets a little chilly outside...

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Dec 24, 2021 5:49:39 GMT -5 a_muppet said:

Just noticed, we are completely out of white wine?

How could that happen?

Is there a hole in the bottle that it could have escaped from? Lol

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Dec 23, 2021 8:48:06 GMT -5 a_muppet said:

Dec 23, 2021 5:32:57 GMT -5 cassie said:

Theres commercial and then theres commercial. Yes everyone has to eat and why not eat a little bit nicer or special than at the rest of the year? But do we need the amount of food we are pursueded to buy?

Guess how many mince pies are wasted each year..... try 74 million... Thats disgusting especially while maybe not half a mile from our own front door someone is hungry.

www.ecoandbeyond.co/articles/christmas-food-waste/

Then there are the gifts... Do we really need the stuff we get? Another purfume /socks/shawl/ earrings/ These days I like to sit back and think abut what Im giving. I try to buy gifts that are long term useful or needed or an experience. This year I've sent my son the money for a years family ticket to the zoo so he can take the children there whenever he likes.

www.buzz.ie/lifestyle/unwanted-christmas-presents-environment-waste-25545178

Anyone who is on FB doesnt get a Christmas card from me (except mum) instead I make a nice photo like the one I shared here and publish it on FB with the message that the blank space on their shelf where my paper card would have been is instead feeding someone or saving a dog as we take th card and stamp money double it and donate it.

I understand the economy has to be kept turning but there are limits to the amount of waste and damage we can excuse in the name of Christmas

I don't altogether disagree with you. My pov was nudged in a different direction one day when I was ranting at the waste of time and space that letter box drop off leaflets were. 95% of mine don't get past me reading the top line before they go in the recycle bin.

But then I reflected on how many people got an income from that leaflet.

To name just a few

The advertiser [pizza]
the designer
the ad agency staff
the paper manufacturing staff
the lorry driver
the printer
the recycler
the ink manufacturer
the entire supplying industry of the pizza

and I am sure there are more I have not thought of.

....and how many dependents are those people supporting?

This stood out for me: it isn't just a leaflet. It is a product that many people have contributed to and made an income from. It's like magazines: they aren't just a few pages quickly cobbled together: it is a project that 100's of people have worked on.

It goes to show the things we don't even consider important can be important to someone else.

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Dec 24, 2021 6:03:40 GMT -5 cassie said:

Dec 24, 2021 5:49:39 GMT -5 a_muppet said:

Just noticed, we are completely out of white wine?

How could that happen?

Is there a hole in the bottle that it could have escaped from? Lol

... the world is just full of comediennes.

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Dec 24, 2021 7:54:31 GMT -5 Popcorn&Candy said:

Dec 23, 2021 8:48:06 GMT -5 a_muppet said:

I don't altogether disagree with you. My pov was nudged in a different direction one day when I was ranting at the waste of time and space that letter box drop off leaflets were. 95% of mine don't get past me reading the top line before they go in the recycle bin.

But then I reflected on how many people got an income from that leaflet.

To name just a few

The advertiser [pizza]
the designer
the ad agency staff
the paper manufacturing staff
the lorry driver
the printer
the recycler
the ink manufacturer
the entire supplying industry of the pizza

and I am sure there are more I have not thought of.

....and how many dependents are those people supporting?

This stood out for me: it isn't just a leaflet. It is a product that many people have contributed to and made an income from. It's like magazines: they aren't just a few pages quickly cobbled together: it is a project that 100's of people have worked on.

It goes to show the things we don't even consider important can be important to someone else.

..... and how many people need a share of the few pennies that the leaflet actually cost, before being binned unread.

Caution, I am feral.

alsr Elite Member III Posts: 7,921	Christmas 2021 Dec 24, 2021 9:59:32 GMT -5 a_muppet and kjay like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by alsr on Dec 24, 2021 9:59:32 GMT -5 Dec 24, 2021 5:49:39 GMT -5 a_muppet said: Just noticed, we are completely out of white wine? How could that happen? How could that be, Cherry? I only drink white wine

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